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  • #3176
    newyork
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    anyone any thoughts on the racing post trophy this weekend another big field is likely. I was impressed with eagle mounatin in his last race

    #80205
    davidjohnson
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    Eagle Mountain looks like starting short and if he lines up, I’d be prepared to back his stablemate against him at a bigger price. Admiralofthefleet was seriously impressive in the Royal Lodge, form that looks solid given the time and the subsequent runs of the third and fourth. He could be a touch of ew value.

    #80206
    Aidan
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    This will be an absolute walk in the park for Eagle Mountain, particularly if the ground is on the easy side.

    #80207
    The Market Man
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    Quote: from Aidan on 7:37 pm on Oct. 17, 2006[br]This will be an absolute walk in the park for Eagle Mountain, particularly if the ground is on the easy side.

    If its soft Thousand Words will make him shift.

    #80208
    Lingfield
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    Undoubtedly the juvenile championship was last Saturday with the 2 Irish horses clear.<br>Nonetheless the RP Trophy will be an informative contest with some useful types out. Perhaps a challenger to those 2 may emerge from the race.<br>O’Brien again has two very useful chances up against UK horses like Thousand Words and old adversary Drumfire. The former has been the more impressive since they met, notwithstanding one flop which I think was at York where connections blamed going.<br>Informative race in prospect. What’s the weather forecast?

    #80209
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    It might turn out to be a "walk in the park" for Eagle Mountain but at the likely odds I’ll be betting against it. He reminds me of Septimus, beaten at odds-on in the same race last year, in that he lacks pace. That’s how it seemed to me when he ran at York, anyway. I’d much prefer Admiralofthefleet if he runs.

    #80210
    Aidan
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    Eagle Mountain is nothing like Septimus in terms of physique, breeding, race performance etc. He will win this in a hack canter. Different class to this lot including any of his stablemates entered in this race.<br>

    (Edited by Aidan at 9:10 pm on Oct. 17, 2006)

    #80211
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    the time of eagle mountains race last time was very good  given the ground it was out standing

    #80212
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    (Edited by newyork at 9:12 pm on Oct. 17, 2006)

    #80213
    guskennedy
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    You obviously rate the horse very highly, Aidan, but he looked nothing special at York. Why shouldn’t we take that at face value?<br>

    (Edited by guskennedy at 9:48 pm on Oct. 17, 2006)

    #80214
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    he got outpaced at york and would of won in  50 more yards and only to failed to beat teofilo at the curragh before that (according to the racing post)

    (Edited by newyork at 9:32 pm on Oct. 17, 2006)

    #80215
    davidjohnson
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    He’s definitely better than he showed at York, his Beresford run shows that. And I agree he’ll be the one to beat, but on form he really doesn’t have a great deal in hand of Admiralofthefleet. That could prove immaterial as betfair suggests Admiralofthefleet won’t be running. He form is imo a level above that of the likes of Thosuand Words, Regime and Drumfire and is a level above what the likes of Brian Boru and High Chapparal had shown before they won this contest.

    #80216
    Bulwark
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    I do like Eagle Mountain forthis race and he will be a worthy favorite but I think I might side with ChappleHyams horse  Authorized, whos been touted a few times over the summer and his debut looked like it might be quite promising, could be an e/w shot.

    #80217
    jackane24
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    Yeah I don’t blame you Bulwark. Ahern liked him on his debut a lot, and said he just got tired in the last furlong.

    Eagle Mountain will win though.

    #80218
    guskennedy
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    Quote: from davidjohnson on 12:53 pm on Oct. 18, 2006[br]He’s definitely better than he showed at York, his Beresford run shows that.

    It was pretty desperate ground in the Beresford, DJ, and it often pays to be dubious about improved form shown on extremes of going. The York form is perfectly respectable but Eagle Mountain definitely looked there like a horse short of acceleration. We don’t know yet what the ground will be on Saturday, of course, but I wouldn’t be rushing to take a short price about Eagle Mountain if it wasn’t well on the soft side.

    #80219
    jackane24
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    Ah come on, Eagle Mountain was motoring in the final furlong of the Champagne and Futurity. No problem with a mile, because he’ll have his head in front well before.

    Not to mention the above races were both on decent ground.

    #80220
    guskennedy
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    The official going last time was "soft to heavy".

    He might have been motoring late on at York but not fast enough to win the race. That’s my point.

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