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  • #6921
    Neil Watson
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    Fancy a bit of nostalgia well look at these from Youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/manced42

    A good and interesting selection, even has jumping at Windsor, All Weather hurdle from Southwell with Ian Bartlett in the box and also how the BBC and C4 used to cover racing.

    #147766
    Tuffers
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    Good find – an excellent selection

    Try this one – if your eyes are dry as they cross the finishing line you either know nothing about NH racing or have no soul (IMHO of course)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mObGZmptA

    #147768
    Neil Watson
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    Without a doubt the best horse race ever.

    I was only 10 at the time but that meant a hell of a lot to me as without Dessie,Nashwan and Durham Edition in the late 80s I would not of got hooked on this great sport

    #147772
    moehat
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    Yes, still makes me cry…..

    #147774
    Cruella
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    It’s a toss-up between Desert Orchid’s Gold Cup and this one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d3VzqHqMoI

    as to what makes me cry more. You can’t beat Peter O’Sullevan’s commentaries.

    #147777
    Tuffers
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    It’s a toss-up between Desert Orchid’s Gold Cup and this one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d3VzqHqMoI

    as to what makes me cry more. You can’t beat Peter O’Sullevan’s commentaries.

    The suggestion that a horse could win the Champion Hurdle and the Gold Cup would be absurd if it wasn’t for her – good stuff

    #147779
    Grey Desire
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    Good to see The Antartex’s win in the John Hughes again in which I had a small bet on him.

    #147785
    graysonscolumn
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    All Weather hurdle from Southwell with Ian Bartlett in the box

    A really interesting historical piece, that! A few points immediately spring to mind;

    – Barty wasn’t delivering the actual racecourse commentary, as I can hear someone mumbling away in the background doing that. I didn’t have access to a source of Sky Sports back in 1993, never mind own it – was he employed by the company at the time?

    – I’d forgotten that Southwell was using the fixed brushes pretty much from the get-go, rather than Lingfield’s dreaded "Radiators from Space". All-weather hurdling was stopped on account of the fatality rate, but was Southwell actually as much of a killer as its Surrey counterpart? It strikes me that the combination of Fibresand and the more forgiving brushes should have made for slower, and with it safer, contests.

    – that’s definitely Jeff Stelling I can hear before and after the race, isn’t it. "They’ll be dancing in the streets of Rolleston tonight!", as he ought to have said.

    Apropos of old race footage, I wonder if the even more prolific Arazi has stuck anything else on Youtube lately.

    Jeremy
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    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

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    graysonscolumn
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    Try this one – if your eyes are dry as they cross the finishing line you either know nothing about NH racing or have no soul (IMHO of course)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mObGZmptA

    The flame-war underneath the footage is pretty eye-watering for different reasons – some bloke who insures horses for Jonjo having a pop at anyone and everyone. I wonder if Mr Fists knows of him.

    gc

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #147805
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    You’ve totally lost me there mate but it’s early morning here :lol:

    Unfortunately and I know this won’t be a popular thing to say but I took little pleasure out of watching Desert Orchid winning the Gold Cup. For me he was never a true champion of steeplechasing but he was the peoples champion.

    I was discussing DO with "H" Himeslf a few moths back and I much preferred watching him in his very early days when he won at Ascot over Hurdles and in his earlier years over fences. He was an awesome sight to behold but alas once he moved into top class hurdling he was very dissapointing and later moved to fencing.

    I his early days over fencing he was spectacular to watch and there’s nothing better than watching a horse like him ping fences at speed but again he disappointed me.

    Watching Desert Orchid struggling up the hill and beating Yahoo while it was a great achievment a did little for me in comaprison to watching him when he was in total command of a race like when he beat The Argonaught and Very Promising at Sandown. The truth is it was an awful Gold Cup.

    I know he was many peoples favourites but Desert Orchid as I say for me was never a real champion. Great to watch at times for sure he lost over 50% of his races and to some real average animals at that.

    Dawn Run won the Champion Hurdle and the Gold Cup and yes I got a real biuzz that day……….the fact I had Solar Cloud and Charter Party had already won in my Jackpot 6 with Willaim Hill and she was the 3rd or 4th leg may have had a tiny bit to do with it……I got an even bigger buzz when Jobroke and Half Free won and the damn thing came up :lol:

    For me it was a much more exciting race to watch than Dessies and watching the smile on Jonjo’s face was a sight to behold.

    I can understand people getting emotional about both races especially if you were a big fan of either…………great thing when he/she wins the Blue Riband but neither caame near to being my favourite horse.

    Arkle, The Dickler, BurroughHill Lad, Jodami and Master Oats were much classier winners to watch and that’s my thing.

    I think because I actuallly saw Arkle win his gold cups I am just very hard to please. Some horses like Pendil, Killiney, Flying Bolt, Golden Cygnet and Nick Dundee certainly grabbed my imagination but not until now and Kauto Star have I seen a horse that compared.

    Kauto’s win in the King George was something you younger guys will refer back to for years to come and should he win the Gold Cup I think he’ll surpass Dessie and become the favourite horse of many many racing fans.

    #147841
    runandskip
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    its been a total pleasure watching those races again and was a reminder how good racing on the bbc was in those days

    #147879
    Neil Watson
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    Regarding the All Weather hurdle race, maybe it is now time to experiment again with the advent of new surfaces such as Polytrack and Tapets aswell as Cushion Track plus the surface used in indoor show jumping, After all the puisance use artificial surfaces.

    The Lingfield equitrack for me was awful but the Southwell jumpers seemed to handle it quite well, maybe Kempton or Wolves could have a trial over hurdles to see how it would handle, who knows floodlit hurdle races could be something to see

    #147885
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    and I thought I was lost :lol:

    go to end of forum turn left and it’s the third door on the left Neil :wink:

    #148097
    graysonscolumn
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    Aye, Neil, I’d like to see one or two experimental meetings reintroduced. Artificial surface technology has surely come on leaps and bounds since the cessation of AW jumping this month 14 years go.

    gc

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #148104
    MikkyMo73
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    It was interesting to hear Michael Dickinson interviewed on ATR last week. He suggested that this country would have no problems whatsoever if they wanted to have AW jumps racing.

    I can’t remember exactly what he said but he went into deatail the surface that would be fine to jump on and is very safe. He should know a thing or two about jump racing I reckon :D

    Mike

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