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100% Ista, but i’d imagine you’d be looking at taking both races in!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I’d keep your money Jack if I were you. Ascot is totally different running round a bend for the SJP compared to running up the straight mile for the QEII. I’d give him no chance personally, whether he wins on Sunday or not. He’s shown absolutely nothing to suggest he can stay a stiff Ascot straight mile on soft ground
Firstly, at 20-1, if he wins on Sunday, i’m looking at a single figure shot i imagine, so i’m not too worried.
It’s different yes, but the way he raced at Ascot with little cover and travelling to well 2fs out, suggests to me, if they can ride him cold, he could finish well. He did stay last time at Ascot, just not as well as PP, who i think will win. However, 20-1 is 20-1. I’d have him ahead of Century Dream on form anyway + with 3pds
Every horse has their chance Frenchy + his is better than a 20-1 shot.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I don’t think he is, I’d have Century Dream over Pinatubo at the QEII on soft in a matched bet.
You’re also banking he wins on Sunday for that bet and that he defo goes to the QEII. Even if he wins on Sunday, I really doubt he will turn up on soft on Champions Day.
If he wins on Sunday, if he turns up at Ascot, if the ground is not a bog….way too many if’s. Much better chances than that I’d say. Roseman is one I was looking at the other day based on his run last year at Newmarket. 25/1. I’d take him in a matched bet as well on a soft straight mile
Fair enough lads- i did say at the beginning Ascot might not be perfect for him, but if he does win come Sunday, which he’s even money to do, he’ll probably be 6s or 7s for here. Siskin is 8s ffs for here and 8s for France ffs!
I think PP will win, but from a price perspective i think Pinatubo is overs. Also, if he wins on Sunday, i can always trade out of him if necessary, though i do think if he wins they’ll go here, as i said before where else? Back to 7f to meet his stablemate? America- yes, but why not run at Ascot too, it can easily be fit in beforehand.
I respect Roseman has some soft ground form to his name, but beating CD last year wasn’t very difficult. So, nothing out of the ordinary there. Even his 4th this year doesn’t look anything special lets be honest.
I don’t love Pinatubo, but i think there’s a few in here forgetting he’s a good horse and are forgetting the 3yo miles look a heck of a lot better than the older milers who have been absolutely useless in the main for years.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Think both horses have their pro and con if they run. A dry week and Pinatubo would look better for a place and on soft Century Dream would look better for a place. Too early to say which is the best 20-1 shot.
Probably for when Siskin cruises past him on Sunday
No but seriously, I think that makes sense, as if he doesn’t win come Sunday and doesn’t shape like the mile suited, they will drop him back you’d imagine, and with Space Blues looking foret bound they are probably keeping all options open!Twitter: Jackh1092
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Palace pier was evens with WH but they have cut him after persian king winning to 4/5 best price now 10/11.
Pinatubo ran okay actually just got going a bit late, but still if he can’t beat Persian King at LC I see no reason why he can get anywhere near Palace Pier over a stiff ascot mile on soft
Pinatubo should go to the 7f race in France as i read he has a record over 7f of five wins from five including three Group 1s.
And Space Blues who has already shown some group 1 sprint form this year have a go at the Champions Sprint. Both should avoid Palace Pier imo.Yeah Insta i see that! I’ve seen on here he doesn’t go either.
Anyway 20-1 into 10s i’ll take that for a horse that just lost….
I’d say Frenchy in all probability, Palace Pier is a top top horse and nothing will beat him, but yesterday’s race wouldn’t be form i’d be using for or against Pinatubo. Messy French race, that is all…
Mike as there’s only one of those, there hands are tied if they want to race after that?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!As I just wrote on the Moulin thread, he looks a horse that needs the perfect mile race to drop in his lap to land a Grp1 I think. Finishing at 106% of pace, proves WB got him going too late and that’s after getting going too early in the SJP. He’s just an unreliable horse over a mile for me.
If he does turn up and I still think it’s doutbful, but if he does 20/1 (if you did EW?), will be a nice looking bet in the end though I agree.
No but seriously, I think that makes sense, as if he doesn’t win come Sunday and doesn’t shape like the mile suited, they will drop him back you’d imagine, and with Space Blues looking foret bound they are probably keeping all options open!
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