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- June 7, 2010 at 23:57 #15270
This is a race to savour. We have Rip Van Winkle, for my money the 2nd best 3yo of last season. We have Paco Boy, who looks as good as ever this year. And we have the brilliant Goldikova, who is favourite.
Imo it’s between Rip Van Winkle and Goldikova. Rip defeated Paco Boy last year, and I don’t really see why the placings should be reversed. Rip is having his first run though, so I guess that will give Paco Boy supporters some hope. APOB’s horses don’t seem to be on top form, and Rip will need to be to beat the French filly. If both were backed to the same stake and one of them won, you’d be getting 1/2 odds. Not bad imo, as I feel Paco Boy falls short of their class.
June 8, 2010 at 00:51 #299447Paco Boy, who looks as good as ever this year
I think Paco Boy is actually better than ever this year, and Hannon thinks the same. And several of AOB’s big hopes have been lukewarm first-time-out, so I think there is a good chance RVW will not be in the first 2. In fact, maybe not even the first 3 because I think Dalghar could be a solid e/w – ARD has an excellent record at Ascot.
June 8, 2010 at 10:23 #299474I would suggest nobody back a Ballydoyle horse until the stable returns to form.One swallow does not a summer make.Aidan admitted that St Nicholas Abey was not right and I suggest that neither were his five runners over the weekend.
June 8, 2010 at 10:57 #299481Quite often these races never live up to the billing…

I’m looking forward to the Windsor Forest!

Could be a good little contest in it’s own right!

Edit: That’s if they all turn up!
June 10, 2010 at 10:06 #299777I didn’t think it possible…but…
last time out – one of these clocked 10 secs or under for the final furlong!
June 10, 2010 at 17:29 #299824Have you got a link to a video of Dalghar’s win by any chance?
June 10, 2010 at 18:15 #299829
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Rip Van Winkle has also been declared for the Prince Of Wales and, given the likelihood of a small field and fast ground, might just go for it.
A gp1 10f win certainly wouldn’t look shabby on his CV for his stud prospects.June 10, 2010 at 20:08 #299845Whatever race
Rip Van Winkle
runs in,he wins! Of course there is the "Are Aidans horses really firing?" issue to contend with.In my opinion Royal Ascot is a big enough meeting for Rip Van to be tuned to the minute,if he is then 3/1 for the Queen Anne is xmas!
June 10, 2010 at 20:29 #299848Goldikova is better than him even if he does turn up here, target surely the eclipse, and has to come back after a poor run at the end of last season, against 2 match-fit rivals.
Rip a place lay for me.
June 10, 2010 at 20:58 #299853Goldikova is better than him even if he does turn up here, target surely the eclipse, and has to come back after a poor run at the end of last season, against 2 match-fit rivals.
Rip a place lay for me.
She is a very good filly Bucksy,but He is an exceptionally speedy colt for one that doesn"t run over 6f!
June 10, 2010 at 21:45 #299863I’ve been all over Rip Van Winkle since last years Derby, but 2/1 Goldikova, wow, all over that. Can’t trust Ballydoyle! Merci Monseuir!
June 10, 2010 at 21:52 #299864Sorry Biggie – I don’t have that one.
They did show part of it on Racing News today when Tommo interviewed Dupre…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prix_du_Palais_Royal
By the way there are a lot of stats that need to be broken if some of the picks being put up on here (for races throughout the week) are to win!

For the record: I’m not saying that stats alone determine the outcome of a race…
they are of deep interest though having refreshed myself with some of them!
June 10, 2010 at 22:05 #299866No worries, thanks. Caught the clip, didn’t take the breath away, but that final time is interesting
June 10, 2010 at 22:14 #299868I suppose the ‘fillies and mares don’t win the Queen Anne’ is one you’re referring to Zenjah?
A bit of a silly stat really. Hardly any have run in recent years, but 2nd and 3rd in 2008 & 2nd, 3rd and 6th in 2004. A worthless stat IMO.
June 10, 2010 at 22:20 #299870No Zar – what I was saying isn’t just applicable to this one race alone…
Some will scoff – I did when I see them to be honest – but when you’re going to take a short price about something it’s better to know!

As I said – you can’t just rule out something on these alone…you have to be flexible if you know that the form doesn’t strengthen the stat…
June 11, 2010 at 20:29 #300020Heavy support has brought Goldikova into 13/8
Ballydoyle runners usually need the run in my opinion. I had my largest ever bet on Rip Van Winkle last year in the QE2 stakes, and been my favourite horse for a long time, but Goldikova oozes class and should not be beaten here. Banker forecast.
June 11, 2010 at 22:04 #300040
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Would agree about the forecast, but wouldn’t be so certain it would be that way round. If there’s one older horse in Europe capable of shaking up Goldikova, it’s RVW, and his better form stacks up quite well against that of his main rival. Can’t see AOB sending him into this race half-cocked either.
Whatever happens, Paco Boy will be outclassed and outstayed. The Hannons were making exactly the same noises about him early last season, but he never saw where RVW went, when the chips were down. - AuthorPosts
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