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  • #1726857
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    As usual, exception will be made for Punchestown, and it’ll be kept to a thread for the meeting, rather than individual races.

    Entries starting to come through.

    Banbridge really appeals in The Gold Cup, while in Stayers Hurdle, I’ll definitely be betting Eagle Fang and Franciscan Rock.

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    Eagle Fang a losing Antepost

    #1727570
    Silver Spoon
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    Slade Steel at 25-1 each way is The Dooley Novices is my only ante-post so far

    #1728543
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Two Anteposts for me, and then the rest after Final Decs

    Both risky, with potential to be bigger on the day

    Barberstown – Brookie 25’s EW 3Pls
    Stayers – Franciscan Rock 50’s EW

    Day One Selections

    Albert Bartlett – Billy Lee Swagger 18’s EW
    Killashee – Sonny May 33’s EW4Pls
    KPMG – Irancy 16’s EW

    Billy Lee Swagger odds added after race had finished

    #1728555
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    Champion Novice Chase – Impaire Et Passe 6/1

    Impaire Et Passe has good form in this time of year. Ballyburn is the favourite, but with his jumping he isn’t worth a bet. First time 3 miles for Impaire Et Passe is a question though.

    Champion Chase – El Fabiolo 10/1

    Obviously El Fabiolo is a very tricky one. But I’m still hopeful he can produce a 170+ performance with a decent round of jumping. Not too sure about Marine Nationale and Fact to File back tot 2 miles is also a bit of a uncertainty. Although I do think he will probably win.

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    I can’t believe Ricci is considering the Mares’ Hurdle on Saturday for Lossiemouth.

    #1728564
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Ricci doesn’t get a say where his horses run.

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1728589
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    Disappointing only field four declared for Gold cup

    VF x

    #1728591
    GM23
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    4 in the Gold Cup is very disappointing and I’m still pissed that Gaelic Warrior was wasted in a Grade 2 on Saturday when he had a huge chance in this.

    I can’t believe Ricci settled for a Grade 2 worth 45k when he could possibly have pocketed a Grade 1 worth £150k on Wednesday.

    #1728593
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    “I can’t believe Ricci settled for a Grade 2 worth 45k when he could possibly have pocketed a Grade 1 worth £150k on Wednesday.”

    As Nathan pointed out above, it’s not Ricci’s decision.

    #1728596
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    He pays the bills Glad and so it should be his decision. Great trainer and all that Willie is, it’s no financial loss to him or any other trainer when these animals get hurt, retire or even die.
    The owner should always call the shots on where their horse runs. That’s only if the owner has a keen interest in the sport overall though obviously. Some of these owners appear to know absolutely nothing and so need to give the trainer complete control.
    In that case though, they’d be better off with their own racing manager to look after their best interests. The trainer always looks after No1.

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    GM, while i get it to an extent, i’d say being at the yard day-in, day-out entitled the trainer *any trainer not just WPM* to have the main say on the planning for a horse and what suits it best.

    Owner might be a great planner, like a Tony Bloom operation, but the trainer needs to be in on it too.
    Racing Manager the same, he is unlikely to know the horse like the trainer.

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    #1728616
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Ricci was burnt with Vautour Gold Cup/Ryanair and keeps his opinions to Mullins is the trainer and knows more than me ever since.
    Lossiemouth is better over further than 2 miles and either State Man was showing more than her at home or they didn’t think they would beat Constitution Hill with either so went with the easier option. State Man could only run in one race. I’m not sure you can run a horse with the thought if another falls we might win let alone if two fall we might win. Its not Mullins fault that there are other options available. Mullins goes wrong by saying rubbish like its been a two year plan when he never fully commits to Mullins bingo until the last minute.

    I’d have loved to have seen Gaelic Warrior it too GM23
    They view him as a head case and they don’t view him as a Gold Cup horse “yet” :scratch:

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1728620
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    My selections today are:
    Timmy Tuesday 3.05
    Gaucher ew 5 places 3.40
    Stellar Story 4.50
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    Solness 6.00 to lead them a merry dance!

    #1728622
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    Jack,

    Obviously the trainer should get a big say as nobody will know the horse like him and his staff.

    What I’m talking about is the blatant situations when a trainer switches a horse to a different race to suit himself and not the owner. Happens every season with the big trainers.

    Un De Sceaux and Annie Power being kept away from the Champion Hurdle in 2014 when either could’ve won it.
    Willie wanted to give Hurricane Fly a shot at a 3rd title and made sure nothing out of his own yard could thwart that. He ended up beaten anyway.

    Gaelic Warrior being placed in a Grade 2 last week when he had a huge chance in the Gold Cup this week.

    Chacun Pour Soi always got the Leopardstown races whereas Energume was sent for a Grade 2 at Cork and then on to Ascot.

    Faugheen was 8yo by the time he got his first run at Leopardstown due to Willie refusing to run him against Hurricane Fly. He knew Faugheen would’ve destroyed him at that stage and couldn’t bare to watch it.
    That’s not fair to Ricci who had the best horse around and so deserved the biggest prizes.

    It’s these types of scenarios where I think the owner should overule the trainer every time.

    #1728624
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    I always like to bet on most races at Punchestown, as if my tokens are going to expire at the end of the NH season :cry:

    Today’s hastily chosen ew hopefuls

    Cloudy Tuesday
    Crazierthandaisy
    Ascending Lark, Gaucher, Samui
    Salvator Mundi win only (try not to feck it up Patrick)
    Champ Kiely and Ile Atlantique (try not to fall off again please Patrick)
    Green Hint
    El Fabiolo
    Galileo Sand

    #1728626
    LD73
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    At the end of the day if Ricci really wanted her to run against State Man and CH she would as he gets the final say regardless of how much Willie’s influence is – most felt it was clearly the wrong decision to go to the Mares as while some would question whether she could beat CH and State Man I doubt that anyone felt she wouldn’t have handled Golden Ace comfortably.

    That being said, having just checked the RP for entries for Saturday, strangely they actually don’t even have her listed as a runner for the Mares race at all – do they know something we don’t as RacingTV’s entries page does have her listed :unsure:

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/195/punchestown/2025-05-03/893173/
    https://www.racingtv.com/racecards/2025-05-03/punchestown/1542

    #1728627
    LD73
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    Regarding today’s big race, am I the only one who thinks that Marine Nationale is most likely going to get his arse handed to him by Fact To File?

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