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    Salselon
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    You are the most cynical and bitter individual I’ve ever encountered online, but I’ll take your compliment and offer a :wink: and a :)

    What’s cynical and bitter?

    I think if you do make it as an international racing journalist, something which i have no idea about (only to say where there’s a will there’s a way), it will have little to do with backing winners, an act on which i complemented you on quite nicely, and all to do with journalistic ability and racing knowledge. :?:

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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Nevermind.

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    Avatar photoZarkava
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    I see some quarters in France are calling for the Prix du Jockey Club to be run over 12f again

    RP Article here

    Personally I would like to see the race back over the mile and a half

    However it also begs the question as to why the French don’t just send their 12f horses over to Ireland or, God forbid, Epsom!

    Because the GP de Paris takes place in 6 weeks. And arguably it’s because they don’t send horses to Ireland or Epsom that they’re so successful in the Arc.

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    davidbrady
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    I don’t see why not sending a horse to the Curragh or Epsom means they will win the Arc. IMO the French are more succesful in the Arc because they tend to give their horses a break mid-summer and bring them back for the autumn while in UK & IRL we race our horses throughout the summer. My point was more "if they want a 3yo 12f race then there are 2 there already"

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    Surely the time of year and ground have a lot to do with it too. October in France can come up with very soft ground and aiming a horse like Sea the Stars at it for example could be a waste of time. Especially if he can go for a decent race here or in the States where the ground is often better.

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    I don’t understand these comments as evidence the race should be increased back to 2400m ?

    Carlos Laffon-Parias trained dual Group 1-winner Laverock to finish sixth behind Shamardal in the inaugural running over the shorter trip, and he suggested on Monday that the "best horse" no longer wins.

    While Shamardal went on to win the St James’s Palace Stakes at York before being retired to stud after a training setback, runner-up Hurricane Run made his name over 1m4f by taking the Irish Derby and the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe and then landing the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes at Ascot as a four-year-old.

    Last year Montmartre, who posted a career high Racing Post Rating of 127 when taking the Grand Prix de Paris, was only 15th to Vision d’Etat in the Jockey-Club with the winner achieving an RPR of 122.

    Laffon-Parias said: "Look what happened with Hurricane Run and Montmartre. The best horse doesn’t win the Jockey-Club any more and I don’t consider it a Classic."

    I maybe wrong but that seems a nonsense arguement.

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