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I think if you’re looking at a good each way bet for a bit of fun Papal Bull has got to be the best value, although I’m a bit concerned about his jockey travelling from Canada to ride him..don’t jockeys suffer from jet lag???
That 190 I got on Betfair for Kamsin a few weeks back is looking very nice considering thunderstorms are forecast…
Run in torential downpours in the German Derby and has very good form coming into this.
Beat Papal Bull too….Got to be your good EW bet for those not already on him
Zarkava drawn in stall 1 – still, it wont be a hindrance if she repeats her Vermeille performance!
Zarkava drawn in stall 1 – still, it wont be a hindrance if she repeats her Vermeille performance!
She is in against big boys now
Most weather sites have rain forecast so I think I will get on Soldier Of Fortune as main bet, with a small each way on Papal Bull at good odds, and a small cover bet on the Duke now that he has drifted, in case the rain doesn’t arrive, really excited now about this race.
She is in against big boys now
Big (slower) boys !
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Zarkava drawn in stall 1 – still, it wont be a hindrance if she repeats her Vermeille performance!
Been said before on here, and I agree – she cannot win if she tries to imitate the Prix Vermeille.
Zarkava drawn in stall 1 – still, it wont be a hindrance if she repeats her Vermeille performance!
Been said before on here, and I agree – she cannot win if she tries to imitate the Prix Vermeille.
She’ll do well to be placed
From mid-season when it was clear that Soldier of Fortune was going to be aimed specifically at the Arc he was my clearcut idea of the winner. The Prix Vermeille won me over to Fists viewpoint on Zarkava and sure, I wouldn’t like to see her sit in the stalls again, but now I thinks she is a worthy favourite.
It was interesting yesterday on ATR where they had an interview with K Fallon who was in no doubt that Soldier Of Fortune had been specifically trained for this race. When asked given the choice of rides who he would pick from SOF and DOM he had no hesitation in naming SOF. He was pretty bullish about his chances and if the expected rain does arrive that would only strengthen his view.
Mike.my ratings
137 zarkava
135 soldier of fortune
133 duke of marmalade
128 vision d etat
118 youmzain
117 zambezi sun
114 getaway
112 papal bull
103 kamsin
100 cima de triomphe
100 meisho samson
98 ask
89 its gino
89 schiaparelli
80 red rock canyon
77 blue bresilwill back zarkava to win
Youmzain has a great chance at most paces if back to last years sort of form
Without taking anything away from last years performance, there has always been a nagging feeling that DT ran below his best. I suppose the third home that day has hardly subsequently set the world alight. Good point about the KGV. you do wonder f he wil llet himself down
My feeling is that we could all be looking back wondering how we didnt lump ona very special filly
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People who think she will fail becaus she’s up against the males you are completley insane or ridiculously stupid. The time she recorded last time out has only been seen by Rail Link and your telling me that its not the quickest horse who gets around the track its the one whos most coltish.. if thats true then be prepared to do your dosh.
If all sixteen horses had a specific lane of their own like an Olympic 100m race, you’d back Zarkava to win the race if it were run 100 times, and you’d back her for all 100 instances of the race.
My concern has nothing to do with her being the classiest horse in the race.
People who think she will fail becaus she’s up against the males you are completley insane or ridiculously stupid. The time she recorded last time out has only been seen by Rail Link and your telling me that its not the quickest horse who gets around the track its the one whos most coltish.. if thats true then be prepared to do your dosh.
Mr Wilson,
The time achieved LTO was mainly due to a suicidal early pace. I don’t think anyone is in doubt that she is a high class filly but there are plenty of question marks? She hasn’t really been asked a question yet and this is a very tough looking field to line up against with some real battle hardened colts.
If she can repeat her Vermeille performance and pounce late on the outside, she may not know she’s had a race. And if you are on at fancy prices then you can enjoy the race.
For me, she looks a win and place lay, especially if she gets any shorter.
Well I’ve narrowed it down to four – Zarkava, Duke Of Marmalade, Soldier Of Fortune, Vision D’Etat. Nothing else will win it’ll be one of those four – famous last words
.Zarkava could be anything but as yet she has not yet proved that she can beat the colts or the older horses all her form is 3yo fillies only and it isn’t as strong as the other major contenders – too short. No surprise if she scorches in but no shock if she doesn’t, I can’t back her at 2/1ish.
Duke Of Marmalade has THE best form and should be favourite. Unless its really soft which isn’t very likely he’ll be fine ground wise. On the minus side this race seems to have been almost an afterthought and I’m not convinced he’s as good over 12 furlongs as he is over 10 despite his King George win. He beat Papal Bull a 120ish horse at best on any other known form narrowly and the only other good horse in the race Youmzain didn’t run his race. Not for me on this occasion.
Soldier Of Fortune has had this race as his long term target and has been specifically trained for it. Ran well last year but should be fresher and better this year. Ground will be right for him unless its surprisingly fast. Class horse with as good form at his best as anything in the race. The person that probably knows the horse best – a certain Mr Fallon – is very, very bullish – thats good enough for me.
Vision D’Etat is a little under-rated because his connections aren’t fashionable but its likely we haven’t seen the best of him yet. Conditions should suit and he may be still improving. He’s tough and looks sure to run a big race. Looks to be a major contender.
In summary – Soldier Of Fortune is the one I’ve backed and is my idea of the winner, Vision D’Etat the opponent that worries me the most.
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