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The 2 to 2 and a half length gap between the Oaks and Derby winner shouldnt be taken literally. Did Love run the last furlong flat out having already won the race? I doubt it. More in the tank.
Does it matter what she beat? It was a sensational performance. The clock tells us so. She is the best three year old in training by a country mile.
Granted a good draw and decent ground at Longchamp, I think she would be close to a certainty.
Even if we just say Ennistymon ran to her Ascot form which is probably at the very least given she looks progressive, Frankly Darling hasn’t run absolutely terribly?!
I’d say Frankly Darling has run a bit under power, as she did look to have Ennistymon covered at Ascot regardless of Ennistymon looked eye catching. But, i would doubt either are bad fillies at all probably up to winning their G1s?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Frankly Darling hasn’t run up to her Ascot form there, she was all over the shop on the track. I’d agree they’re probably G1 fillies in their own sex but they didn’t put in G1 performances on Saturday.
Minding done the same double looking unbeatable, but she struggled once she stepped up to the elite level in the ICS. It’s a big jump going from beating 3YO fillies to beating proven top level performers like Enable.
No FD hasn’t, but even if we just assume Ennistymon has not bettered her Ascot run FD hasn’t run miles below has she? She’s run below it but not quite as bad some are saying.
That’s also assuming a 3yo filly of Aidan O’Brien’s hasn’t improved at all from race to race which is unlikely. Espcially one as lightly raced as Ennistymon.
Obviously Frankly Darling was expected to be a proper G1 filly and she still might be, but she’s clearly firey and didn’t improve from Ascot>Epsom like most would have expected. She’s run below her Ascot run, but to me, not by a mile.
Love has ended up beating them 9Ls. Of course stepping up into open company is a massive test but even just on RPRs we are probably looking at the 2nd best Oaks win since 2011 to Enable. The form is harder to judge which is understandable given we had 3months less racing, but i’d say it’ll stand up.
Minding placed in ICS then won at Ascot, so she did end up doing it! Obviously an Arc is another thing entirely.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I suppose the point i’m making with Minding is that i see her as being a better filly than Love at the moment and she still struggled to win an ICS. Love is a right good horse but in the context of the Arc, she shouldn’t be Fav to me as she still has to prove it in open company.
Horses don’t have to prove it in open company to be a favourite of a horse race. If you go back in history, the favourite of a horse race isn’t just about who has the best form at that point but a horse who has impressed on the track and has the potential to step up on what they have done before.
As I previously said, Enable is 6 now and no 6 year old has ever won. She didn’t win it at 5 and I have convinced myself that 1 or maybe more of the younger legs will beat her in the Arc.
It may well be Love with the 3 year old allowances. You win a classic by that distance in a good time and know you go to the Arc getting weight from others its not surprising that she is favourite. Its a ‘sexy’ profile. And a ‘sexy’ profile can end up as a favourite of a horse race.
She’s too short at 4/1 for a filly not yet proven in open company. Aidan for all his greatness is very unsuccessful with his 3YOs in the Arc aswell.
Love’s been given the same rating as Enable was for her Oaks win by BHA of 122 to give the performance some context, Serpentine given 120 which is slightly more than Anthony Van Dyck and Wings Of Eagles but less than Masar and Harzand and some way below Golden Horn of the more recent winners.
On the point of proving herself in open company as it were, I think this is certainly true of novice hurdlers/chasers in a National Hunt setting but significantly less so on the flat, particularly where there aren’t that many superstar older horses still in training. If you looked at the mile division for example the top 3 year olds have in all likelihood already achieved as much if not more than Circus Maximus who is the benchmark for older milers.
I’d definitely agree with the milers, older bunch are poor.
I half agree with the older horses shout but when it comes to a 3YO filly she still needs to prove herself to be up to taking on the 3YO colts with the small allowance, much like Minding who was behind Almanzor (And a very good 4YO in Found).
I still feel she runs like she’s best on a straight track also, she didn’t take Tottenham corner the best and flew once the ground straightened up.
Serpentine coming here so swapped Japan for him at 25s. Love 14s and Serpentine 25s I have currently. I still think at 6 something with younger legs will beat Enable. Maybe its a 3 year old.
Starting to get very tempted about Fancy Blue for this. Small amounts of 28.0 available on Betfair today. Worth a small bet I think.
To be fair I am a bit biased as I had her as one to follow this season (on breeding) but somehow managed to talk myself out of backing her in any races apart from a double where the first leg lost
I am huge fanboy of Deep Impact (I thought he was a good thing in Rail Links Arc) and also a fan of High Chaparral (Fancy Blue’s Dam a full sister). 1m 4f should bring about further improvement and she seems really tough and straightforward.
The Nassau form looks decent with the likes of older horses Magic Wand and Nazeef (ran strange race) behind.
I really like her, 3 year old fillies have a good record in the race and I think 25+/1 is good value.
As the owners have Love lined up for the Arc they may well run Fancy Blue in the Prix De L’opera the same weekend. A risky bet but you never know.
I’m becoming increasingly sweet on enable the more I see of the 3yos
The more we see of the fillies its becoming more obvious Love has beaten absolutely nothing and taking on Enable is going to be very different to anything she has done so far
Id love some 3/1, but even 11/4 is getting tempted
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