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Paul Nicholls – Why can't he take criticism?

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    Two points i’d like to make from the above –

    1 – If i worked in India and someone asked me if i’d enjoyed my Christmas fish and chips and cup of tea, i’d laugh politley – clearly no harm meant, all nations have their stereotypical food preferences.

    2 – Am i the only one sick of interviewers and Nicholls / Walsh moaning how Kauto Star / Masterminded get knocked "by so many people". I’ve never read an article suggesting they are finished or belittling previous achievements, merely opinions over races which they have lost. Its getting old this Team Dicheat, reap the deserved rewards but don’t start this ‘everyone is against us’ crap.

    Can’t remember Jessica Harrington getting so indignant over justifiable criticism over the Great Moscow Flyers occasional jumping problems.

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    No doubt you can go through them more than the UK/Irish fences but it doesn’t mean they take any more jumping.

    Take the water jump for example – it’s a real fence rather than a hurdle with 3ft of water after it. The variation in fences IMO can catch horses out – particularly when you have a small hurdle followed by a bigger fences and a bullfinch etc.

    Back on subject mind – I’ve been very impressed with Master Minded in the UK, not sure what to make of the Exeter mistake but the cash appeared to be down from what I remember so he was expected to win. Was short-sighted at it by Mister Q too from memory but jumping at speed and as well as he did round Cheltenham is good enough for me :)

    I’d say that they take more jumping by default, Martin, if the French one’s are easier to go through, but it’s a moot point.

    My whole point about French fences is that you can go through them. I don’t have any stats to hand, but I’d be surprised if the attrition rate for Fallers and Unseats in steeplechases at Auteuil is anything like as high as in the UK or Ireland.

    It’s only a theory as far as Master Minded is concerned, but if French fences are soft (for want of a better expression), they might make for bad jumping habits……..the kind of bad habits that might find a horse out, when he encounters a proper UK fence……….like you might find at a track like Exeter, for example.

    Master Minded may have learned a valuable lesson at Exeter about the nature of UK obstacles, because one forgivable (and probably avoidable) error at Aintree, he has been pretty-much blemish-free over every other fence he has jumped in public over here.

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    There was some guy conducting an interveiw the other day PC. I think I saw it on the Racing Posts website. His words were he thought Kauto Star might just about win the King George but if he did it would be by about a neck because that is all he is capable of these days.

    OK he didn’t say he was finished but what he did say he was a stone or more less of a horse than he was 12 months ago.

    I’ve read several articles saying he isn’t the horse he used to be etc.

    I still say PN brought it on himself but there is no denying the horse was getting written of in many different quarters by more than a few……….here included.

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    Paul Nicholls was a famous presenter himself back in the 80"s
    "Is it through the round window or the square window" whatever one i thought, you would guarantee paul would say the opposite! Nothings changed there then! i think it was called "PLAYSCHOOL"!!

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    Paul Nicholls was a famous presenter himself back in the 80"s
    "Is it through the round window or the square window" whatever one i thought, you would guarantee paul would say the opposite! Nothings changed there then! i think it was called "PLAYSCHOOL"!!

    Didn’t Paul ride Playschool as a jockey as well?

    Some spooky parallels here lol.

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    I’d still say he isn’t the horse he used to be – he was unbelievable the season winning Old Roan, Betfair, Tingle Creek, KG, Newbury and Gold Cup, all barring Newbury in tremendous style.

    I don’t think he’s as good any more compared to that season – he’s still exceptional, that season was just outrageously impressive, leading all of us to believe Desert Orchid would be surpassed at a canter – does that make me one of the "idiots knocking the horse". Or am i just having an opinion?

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    Use the word "ride" loosely! he was a better TV presenter!

    #199712
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    he did….

    im not bothered if he gets abit cranky sometimes. weighed up against his communication skills (gave a great interview on ruk a couple of weeks ago), id rather that than the bland or wittering nonsense we get from some trainers

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    Looks like PN will go the Henrietta Knight way with him next season in only running him about 3 times.

    I do agree with him about Haydock as he jumped the old course especially well on his first run in 3m Grade One company and the new sharper circuit simply does not suit him.

    Aintree last season was diabloical as they changed tactics which did not work and that quite simply was a case of If it aint broke dont fix it.

    On the Denman front a mate who i see at the races told me that Denman may run in the Pertemps Race in 2 weeks at Warwick on Classic Chase Day.

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    Why can’t PN take criticism?….

    Because, like many people on this earth, he can’t. And the more you suggest to them, the more agitated they get until they inevitably boil over, talk sheight and make fools of themselves…if they can help it.

    He’s yet to realise there is a way to act when in your own opinion, you think you’re on the receiving end of some unfair criticism. Some deal with it well and those that do, always have the bigger last laugh than the pratt who responds by shaking his fists. They’ll (the media etc) only laugh at them before sharpening their knives for the next instalment.

    He of course, gets the chance to ‘prove people wrong’ when one of his win a race after a bit of doubting and lets people know about it.
    :roll:

    Great trainer but a bit of fool with it.

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    Why can’t PN take criticism?….

    Because, like many people on this earth, he can’t. And the more you suggest to them, the more agitated they get until they inevitably boil over, talk sheight and make fools of themselves…if they can help it.

    He’s yet to realise there is a way to act when in your own opinion, you think you’re on the receiving end of some unfair criticism. Some deal with it well and those that do, always have the bigger last laugh than the pratt who responds by shaking his fists. They’ll (the media etc) only laugh at them before sharpening their knives for the next instalment.

    He of course, gets the chance to ‘prove people wrong’ when one of his win a race after a bit of doubting and lets people know about it.
    :roll:

    Great trainer but a bit of fool with it.

    He does come across that way but let’s not forget phone rings off the hook with calls when something is in the air and the press hound the man. The type of guy he is (comes across as a tough cookie) probably he simply can’t be arsed talking to them most of the time and perhaps loses a bit when cornered.

    Maybe he should work a bit more on his communication skills.
    With the press "the art of lying wihout lying" is an art among trainers and PN kinda falls short on that department.

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