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<br>AP, no, but it would be a more interesting forum if just occasionally the self-opinionated among us could take onboard and perhaps give a little value to someone else’s views.
"Blue blue windows behind the stars, yellow moon on the rise"
Quote: from hoofski on 9:12 pm on April 28, 2004[br]<br>AP, no, but it would be a more interesting forum if just occasionally the self-opinionated among us could take onboard and perhaps give a little value to someone else’s views.
 Interesting point of view Hoofski. Out of interest, in your opinion whose views have been disregarded or devalued ? This thread has been a summation of a lot of independent views in my analysis of it.
As for cliquey – I do not think any persons views have been cold-shouldered or ignored, although the subject matter has been narrow and possibly beaten to death. Most forums or threads can appear cliquey but the real test is whether ‘outsiders’ are cold shouldered or ignored or unduely ridiculed by a self supporting group.
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hoofski,
this is hardly a typical thread. And, to be fair, it probably belongs in the lounge but for it being about a becloaked racing journo.
Paul Haigh criticises the forum in his column, and then joins us (or doesn’t) in his zorro forum-guise, at the same time as turtle, (most welcome), turns up, surely another journalistic poster.
gamble awakes, and leaps forth from the downstairs vault, where some of us hope to see him walking each night.
No harm in that surely.
<br>AP – delighted as I am to see you back, I can’t help but point out that Del was just being self-opinionated…
<br>PS If you really want cliquey….Calling prufrock, if you happen to drop in, I enjoyed your plaintive Eliot cry on betfair today – Thomas Stearns changed my life, and I envy you your moniker.
Shame on you Hoofski for picking on animals and old ladies. Just because we can’t defend ourselves… :crying:
Tooting,<br>       Del was being self-opinionated,but in a way to deliberately provoke,his passing will be missed by few,if any.
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Tooting wrote…this is hardly a typical thread
<br>You can say that again
Hoofski may have been about right with his anorak statement though :biggrin:
although pedantic… No please, I hate da rules
<br>old ladies ?
Paul’s old lady actually. Dammit you’ve forced it out of me. Before any of you lot stoop to criticise my old man again may  I just remind you of President Roosevelt’s wonderful words.
‘It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.’
That’s my Paul.;)
(Edited by turtle at 11:15 pm on April 28, 2004)
"And now Hastings we have the denouement "
Hastings…<br>" She rather pulled the wool over you – it must be said "
P.. " But absolutely not did I think of Turtle to carry the handbag in this cover up most ingenious ? You ridicule a french detective Hastings – please remember my first fateful words to the lady most deceiving !"
Hastings.."  You are connected by birth, marriage, or drinking slate, I do remember and you heard her high heels running."
P…C’est ca, but not too much the joke Hastings – this was a serious case. "
<br>flatcapgamble..john :cool:
Quote: from gamble on 11:27 am on April 28, 2004<br>    I am happy with Zorro and his low profile posting is what I expected and there is nothing forced about him. Turtle comes along at the same time, a mirror image, and my thoughts went in one direction. I have done some research on the connection and am largely satisfied they are separate entities.
P.." I do not wish to appear too self congratulatory Hastings as the press reporter Hoofski is next door and may overhear, but as you see ici my note book reveals I had this one – how would you say ? Sown it up nicely in the hand bag, n’est ce pas ?<br>  <br> Hastings " Yes it is all there, but what surprises me is how you guessed the person hidden in the shell suit was inredibly the wife of Zorro. "
P.. This Madame took a risk most grave in understimating Poirot’s knowledge of the typique welsh couple. Writers are, more often than not, lazy and obstinate Hastings, and his refusal to answer further questions showed me his occupation as clear as the bell. She was very protective of him, the typique welsh wife, and the poor man may now need air in the valley. ;)
I fear he needs something more bracing than fresh air to recover from this thread, poor dab. :confused:
(Edited by turtle at 12:51 pm on April 29, 2004)
Quote: from turtle on 11:14 pm on April 28, 2004….. President Roosevelt’s wonderful words.
‘It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds ….
That’s my Paul.;)
<br> Turtle plays the fine attacking queen’s gambit and it pays off by scuttling the enemy.
I wish to add some final comment to a worthy thread, that I have happily lived within in the last few days.
It compares to the old Cochrane thread of yesteryear for juice, but had none of the initial boredom of that one -with its dry insurance law tripping from Escorial’s old tongue like a hag at a party french kissing, when the rest of the guests are tied up. Kitchen sink lawyers it was full of and under the sink bad odour as the women fought. No this thread was mostly sword battle with the occasional net and horse’s hoof.
 I have probably massaged the figures by my big dick nose, but Davies overtakes Razeen’s fallon with the best viewed thread and is awarded the prize of a golden mouth strap :biggrin:
<br>flatcapgamble.. da boss will next mention Marshall and run da credits
credits..
Director                … Ian Davies<br> Production manager       … Zorro<br> assist producton manager .. Turtle <br> set arrangements        …Caravan. <br> lighting              …ihaventalight(replaced)<br> soundman              …insomniac <br> players…
TDK          ….thespian<br> Racing Daily    ….journalist <br> Dave G        ….old man on bench<br> Meshaheer    …..witch<br> Old Vintage    …..cloakroom attendant<br> Nick Hatton    …. dead body<br> Slippy Blue    ….. Rhino<br> Phunter      ….. window cleaner<br> Robgomm     ……personal trainer <br> Prufrock      ….. tramp<br> Nixer         ….. second drunk<br> Jilly          ….. bride<br> Lovely Lady    …..priest<br> Rory          …..murderer<br> clivex         ….judge<br> Matron        ….. garage proprietor<br> Saddlers Wells  …. down and out<br> Esorial        …. phantom<br> Tooting       …..butcher<br> Non Vintage    …..baby<br> Seabird       …..Seabird<br> Razeen       …..invisible man  <br> Seagull        ….crow<br> Ricky Lake     ….  hippy<br> apracing       …. juvenile delinquent<br> David Marshall  …. hunchback<br> Yquem21      …. second baby<br> Jane          …. dancer<br> Ardross       ….. boxer<br> Pewter        ……headless ghost<br> Daylight       …..Victor Creepo<br> Glen          …..chief hangman<br> Aston         …. insomniac<br> Kathy         …. baby foal in mist<br> Turtle         …. american orator<br> gamble        ….detective<br> grasshopper    ….decorator and stripper<br> hoofski        …. dictator <br> John          …. extra
<br> A few words on Marshall …. shut it
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