May 26, 2009 at 13:02 #11495
I realise this subject may not interest the majority of our forum members, if any at all –
but I was wondering if anyone knows which firms are offering odds for who will be installed as Celtic’s new manager, following the departure of Gordon Strachan ?
Gambling Only Pays When You're WinningMay 26, 2009 at 13:14 #230200SwallowCottageMember
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Paddy Power, Stan James and WH have odds up for this market – Tony Mowbray is favourite. Owen Coyle and Mark McGhee are not far behind in the odds offered.
Wonder if Roy Keane would have been interested if he had not gone to Ipswich.
PeteMay 26, 2009 at 16:05 #230243
Steve McLaren?May 26, 2009 at 16:43 #230253
Before Martin O’Neill left Celtic, he recommended Gordon Strachan for the job. Strachan has recommended his ex-Aberdeen team-mate and ex-Celtic player, Mark McGhee, for the post. Hmmm ?
It all depends what road Dermot Desmond decides to go down. If, as we suspect, he plays safe and brings in another puppet manager to manage a limited budget, then McGhee would be the obvious candidate.
However, Tony Mowbray also fits the bill, having played for Celtic and when manager of Hibernian, had his sides playing quite attractive, attacking football. He would also bring with him Peter Grant, himself an ex Celt and popular with the fans.
Owen Coyle would find it hard to resist the pull of Celtic ( he’s Celtic daft ), but he may wish to try his hand in the Premiership first with Burnley, and who could blame him. Like wise Mick McCarthy, another ex Celt, although he would be welcomed with open arms by the fans.
As for Steve McClaren ? No chance in my opinion.
Then again, Dermot Desmond was instrumental in bringing Roy Keane to the club as a player, even though Gordon Strachan wasn’t too keen at the time. Desmond though, as everyone knows, pulls the strings at Celtic, and whatever DD wants, he gets. It would be no big surprise if he tried to persuade Keane to leave Ipswich and take the Celtic post.
However, my own preference would be Frank Rijkaard ( I can but dream ) but that wont happen, so weighing all things up, I reckon that Tony Mowbray will be unveiled as the new Celtic manager when the white smoke rises above Celtic Park.
Gambling Only Pays When You're WinningMay 26, 2009 at 16:56 #230261
I reckon you’ve got that about right Himself. Mowbray’s too short to interest me though.
Start of the summer managerial merry-go-round. I reckon of the PL managers, Gary Megson, Mark Hughes and possibly Phil Brown could all soon be looking for alternative employment.May 26, 2009 at 18:57 #230282
Just glanced on oddschecker and Coyle’s now odds-on favourite across the board.
Shame for Burnley if they lose him but I suppose it would be hugely tempting for Coyle as a fan if Celtic approach him.May 27, 2009 at 19:43 #230508
Sven Goran McErickson ?May 27, 2009 at 20:20 #230521
Sven Goran Erickson ? More chance of Walter Smith becoming the next Celtic manager than him.
The £1m pay off to West Brom has apparently put Celtic off Tony Mowbray – and as they say in betting circles, money doesn’t talk, it screams !
Owen Coyle will, in all probabilty, be announced as the new Celtic manager before the weekend. The jungle drums are beating hard that he is the chosen one.
Seemingly the lure of managing his boyhood heroes has won the day over taking Burnley into the Premiership.
Gambling Only Pays When You're WinningMay 27, 2009 at 20:39 #230523Peter Poston’s GhostParticipant
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I reckon you’ve got that about right Himself. Mowbray’s too short to interest me though.
Start of the summer managerial merry-go-round. I reckon of the PL managers, Gary Megson, Mark Hughes and possibly Phil Brown could all soon be looking for alternative employment.
Can’t see any of the three you mentioned getting The Spanish Archer in a hurry.
Megson may walk if starved of funds but Bolton would not sack him unless a disaster occurs.
Hughes will get all next season (at least) as City realise that to start again with yet another new manager will hold them back long-term.
Brownie has done a superb job at ‘ull (except for his schoolmaster/naughty children gaffe) and who else would go there with little money to spend and improve things?
As for the Celtic manager they should be looking for someone with proven European match experience.
Had he not played for ‘Gers I would look at Laudrup (M) but if not Sven/McLaren/Gullit should be considered.May 27, 2009 at 22:36 #230552
You may be right PPG, and it was just a bit of idle speculation. I mentioned Megson because of his unpopularity with many Bolton fans (which I think is unfair) – he doesn’t seem to be enjoying the job at all; as for Hughes, the sensible course would be the one you suggest but I’m far from convinced it’ll pan out that way; Brown was the most speculative of the three, but one win in his last twenty-one league games may well be giving his chairman serious food for thought. Hull were saved by a combination of a great start, and the diabolical form of Middlesborough and Newcastle, but 35 points will get you relegated more often than not. It’ll all come out in the wash anyway.
Gullit for Celtic though
Did well at Chelsea but that was a decade ago and since then he’s done nothing. A disaster at Newcastle and didn’t last five minutes at either Feyenoord or LA Galaxy. I think it’s over for Gullit in football management myself.May 28, 2009 at 01:59 #230591
I’d hope Lawell talks to Slaven Bilic if Owen Coyle is staying with Burnley.May 29, 2009 at 00:25 #230787douginhoMember
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I think Owen Coyle would be mad to leave Burnley…but I am sure he will. Personally I think Celtic will struggle to qualify for the Champions League and so where is the glamour. But no one should underestimate the pull of the club they love. And when that club has 60,000 supporters every other week and burnley have 20,000 you can understand it.
I keep hearing all this stuff about the new manager needing to be a "celtic man". And thats why everyone on the shortlist seems to have some celtic connection.
Agree with Graeme the donkey, Slaven Bilic would be a decent choice.
I’ll add it in here rather than start a new thread, but I am an Aberdeen fan. Does anyone have any opinions on who there new manager will be? Mark McGhee would seem to be the favourite now that the Celtic job is looking out of reach.May 29, 2009 at 12:00 #230846
The notion that the next manager has to be ‘Celtic minded’ is something that is peddled by the cheap skate Scottish media. These are the same people who trawl messageboards to get material in order to write articles. They also 2nd guess our club and write the story as gospel i.e Coyle is coming to Celtic (even though he wasn’t).
In my opinion Owen Coyle is in the managers graveyard. He will go straight back down into the Championship and never get a crack at managing Celtic again, or any other big club. Didn’t he come 6th in the Championship, so why all the hype when Wolves won the thing and Birmingham came second ? Even big Eckscuse came 2nd in that league. For Owen Coyle i can potentially see his situation being similar to Paul Jewell and Billy Davis etc.
I also have the feeling that Rudi Vata will be prostituting Slaven Bilic to every managerless club in Europe. He would definetely make my shortlist of three though, but Levein and McGhee wouldn’t. Levein can play good stuff against Celtic and others at times, but not finishing ahead of Aberdeen with some of the useful players he has dosen’t really make me take too much notice.May 29, 2009 at 14:11 #230874
I agree with Graeme the Donkey on his comment about the Scottish media vis-a-vis his comments about the fans wishing every Celtic manager to be " Celtic minded."
Although some hard-core fans of the club like the people in charge to have had a love or previous association with the club, the vast majority simply don’t mind, so long as they are capable of bringing success.
Wim Jansen, Dr Josef Venglos and John Barnes ( a bad call from Dalglish ) were certainly not what you’d deem as Celtic minded.
Jansen ( ex-Feyenoord and Holland) won the league in his first and only season as manager.
Gordon Strachan did very well with Celtic, but his arrogance and contemptible manner for both fans and press alike did not help to endear himself. He said during his tenure that fans and press know next to nothing about the game, therefore he did not need to explain any decisions he made to them.
Gambling Only Pays When You're WinningMay 29, 2009 at 15:29 #230884
The only problem i had with Strachan was his teams inability to convert possesion into goals, aswell as inability to buy a good left back or settled midfield. It dosen’t matter who the manager was last season, they would have to have gone losing to that mediocre Rangers outfit who repeatedly gave us a chance to walk away with the title. I could put up with his so called humour because interviews and press conferences ain’t my thing.
At the moment i think getting rid of the deadwood is almost as important as buying new players in. I can think of a team full of players of the top off my head that i’d get shot of.
The fans also need to put things into perspective, and realise that we won’t be a massive club whilst we operate in a small league. All this ‘60,000 every week and CL football’ is over rated. First of all there’s never 60,000 for leauge games, secondly we don’t play at home every week and thirdly CL football is no substitute for playing a good competetive match every week.
Realistically our budget, small league and financial structure stop us from fufilling the potential which is very big in footballing terms. So when we go for a manager we might just have to go for the untried at a higher level, or who lacks experience in the hope we have called it right. Hence why i think we get linked with your Coyles etc.May 29, 2009 at 22:20 #230978
Kevin Keegan?May 29, 2009 at 23:34 #230995
We can’t afford Keegan and i doubt he could work with our limited budget. I don’t even know if we can compete with Burnley financially, let alone a man who managed Newcastle and probably got 2 plus million a season.
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