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“One thing that made me laugh was Fishy Rishi’s repeated claim that it would be immoral to leave a huge bill now for our children to pay in the future.
Like his kids will pay their taxes.
And if he and his wife, and others like them, actually paid their fair share, we wouldn’t be in this mess”.
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You do know Glad’, that the top 1% of tax payers now pay for over a third of the income tax paid to the government. With the poorest 42% paying nothing at all; following changes made by the Conservatives over the past decade. For much of which Rishi was Chancellor.
Well, that’s according to your bible, The Guardian anyway.
… And why shouldn’t his kids pay their taxes?
Would you say that about any other child?
Please leave his kids out of this.Value Is EverythingBefore HMRC, there was the Inland Revenue, and before even that there was the Board of Taxes, which first received responsibility for Income tax in 1799, when the new tax was brought in temporarily to help pay for the Napoleonic Wars. In fact, although this tax has been in force every year since 1842, even now it retains its ‘temporary’ nature and has to be renewed annually by Parliament.
Maybe it won’t be renewed next year?
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways“Ginge- all you heard from the Tories and their cheerleaders in the press for years after they won the 2010 GE was that they had inherited the mess left by Labour, not the mess caused by the global financial crisis. They were still blaming Labour for their own financial incompetence after the Brexit vote!
The blame was placed squarely at Labour’s feet”.
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Conservatives did inherit the mess Labour left, because Mr Brown was not “prudent”. Britain was in a worse situation than it should’ve been. As the message left by Labour at the treasury said “no money left”.
…And Brown can not complain if he was “blamed” because he himself blamed the Tories for all the busts on their watch whether they were the government’s fault or not… And Brown actually said busts would never happen under his own leadership.
So Brown either should be blamed or admit that he lied to the British public in order to get into power.
Value Is EverythingGinge- those figures are from the IFS, quoted in The Guardian; yes, I have read them before.
Whilst they are correct in pointing out that the top 1% of earners contribute a significant amount to tax income, you cannot possibly be naive enough to think that there aren’t high earners using every possible loophole to reduce their tax bill.
And of course I don’t expect the Sunak children to pay their taxes in full, just as I don’t expect the children of any millionaires or billionaires to do so. I didn’t think that you were so precious to implore that children be kept out of the conversation.
“Have you been keeping up with the next election market Ian?”
I have, Richard, I agree yet Tories 1.91 and Labour 2.1 seems set in stone at Betfair Exchange.
Unchanged for ages.
The boundary changes will favour the Tories but surely a Truss win must affect the market at some stage?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“Please stop this racist stereotyping.”
Yeah, let’s pretend all Asians in the UK have the same equality of opportunity as Sunak – that’ll really help them all.
Not.
Racist, my arse.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"IanDavies said
Racist, my arse.
Exactly!
If your comment was racist, then so was mine about Liz Truss.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysWell said, Purwell.
I’ve got numerous Asian friends, mostly living on council estates, and they certainly don’t identify with Sunak.
They see him as a privileged “Tory Boy” who has little idea what life is like for most people (of any colour) in the UK.
In other news, it’s now 1.2 Truss, 6.2 Sunak!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I have lived on council estates all my life, most of them now are Housing Associations, another back door privatisation of course.
This has taken away many of our tenancy rights and in my opinion has been a major factor in the rise of homeless people.I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways1.19!
The Truss Bus just keeps rolling!
6.4 Sunak just can’t keep up in his kayak.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I know that we’re hoping that we’ll only have to endure two years of Truss (personally, I think that the Tories will win the next GE anyway) but, reading some of the articles about her on the Telegraph website (yes- I subscribe to the Torygraph, as well as the Grauniad and the FT, as I like to see things from all perspectives), it’s quite worrying just how much damage she could inflict even in such a short reign.
If, after the needless early Covid deaths, all the deceit and corrupt cronyism and two years of Trussism, the Tories secure a working majority in 2024 it’s time to give up and emigrate.
Everyone who didn’t vote Tory in 2024 needs immediately to leave the country – simple as.
I respect your ante-post judgement, Gladders, so I’m off to buy a boat – a big one, big enough for a Pigsy – just in case.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Starmer sacks Tarry for going against his decision to stay of picket lines , decisive but not sure how that,ll go down with your typical northern voter ….badly id say
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What I’d ask Tarry is: “what better helps remove the Tories from power? Joining a picket line or doing whatever it takes to portray Party unity to derive maximum benefit from current Tory in-fighting?”
I hope Angela Rayner –
1. Dumps him.
And then –
2. Moves in with me.
(Purely in the interests of sending a strong message to other potential front-bench rebels, obviously).
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"‘I have, Richard, I agree yet Tories 1.91 and Labour 2.1 seems set in stone at Betfair Exchange.’
Interesting to know, thanks. I’m sure we’ll hear from you if there’s a shift. Too far away for many to bother? Not enough polling data? Maybe ‘the market’ simply disagrees with our assessment. Could be a number of factors including what you mention.
Anybody know if the ballots are kept sealed until the count? Or does somebody know how it’s going? I’m sure that data would find its way into the price if somebody knows.
I have this theory – could be wrong and have no evidence, it’s just impressions – that a lot of City people bet on the Betfair Exchange political markets and there is a pro-Tory market bias there.
The next Tory PM would need to eat a newborn baby live on Breakfast TV during the school holidays for Labour to go odds-on in the “Most Seats” market.
We shall see – I reckon Truss would consume one, washed down with a Prosecco.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Where have I said that “all Asians in the UK have the same equality of opportunity as Sunak”?
I haven’t.Where as you used the racist stereotype, describing the “typical Asian living in deprived circumstances on an inner city council estate”.
There is no “typical asian” when it comes to whether they are “deprived” or not, living in an inner city council estate or not. Asians are a wide variety of peoples, covering Bangladeshi, Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, etc. They’re all very different. Indeed, Rishi Sunak’s family originated from India.
According to the official Gov.uk site:
The percentage of households that rented social housing, by ethnicity:
17% of everyone living in Britain live in social housing.
16% of White British
7% Indian7% being the smallest percentage of any ethnicity living in social housing.
Indeed only 1 of those 4 Asian groups mentioned above have a bigger percentage of their households living in social housing than White British.So in fact Chezza you are way out with your racist stereotype of the “typical Asian living in deprived circumstances on an inner city council estate”.
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