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I just believe she’s going to be seen as a third division wannabe thatcher crossed with a boris clone desperate to appeal those who sit around all day in their incontinence parts and believe that Britain was better when we had rationing and wogs started at Dover
She has no identity at all of her own. Nothing
But how can she when she hasn’t a clue about what she believes in
Except herself
It’s hard to have more contempt for someone who vigorously believed in one thing (remain) and then has a Damascus conversion just to further their career. I don’t care what side they are in in the debate and don’t mind if they were equivocal but she was anything but.
That to me is as low as it gets.
I agree, she is awful. But so is Sunak.
It makes very little difference who wins.
And it will make very little difference if Labour and Starmer win the next election.
Sunak is in the centre of the party CAS, (centre-right of politics).
Truss is on the right of the parliamentary right wing party.I myself am centre-right with the emphasis on centre.
When Truss is too right wing for me then she will be too right wing for many voters.Difference between Truss and Starmer is huge and it will make a massive difference to the country.
Value Is EverythingGinge said “Difference between Truss and Starmer is huge and it will make a massive difference to the country.”
2 points – not as big a difference as Corbyn v Boris and
Clear water between the two gives a choice.
Peeps focussing on leaders, when after any initial focus, the electorate will turn to more important matters like Cost of living, the economy, healthcare provision, immigration, etc, etc.
I’d imagine Truss will appeal to Tory voters, but floating voters, maybe not. She’ll have appeal for the tradespeople (white van men – dont like that term but i used it anyway
), likely to appeal to ‘other’ voters with strong views on immigration, PC nonsense, etc.But, those floaters, in the South West or outer London fringes?, probably not – the LDs will be pleased with a Truss premiership.
Despite all this i’m convinced the squeeze on incomes, rising prices will be main factors determining next GE.
Who is closest to the current epicentre of British politics: Truss or Starmer?
The more I hear from Truss, the more I think it’s Starmer.
I actually think Sunak is more right wing than some think, but Truss makes him look positively One Nation moderate.
Truss might be briefly popular when she first moves into No 10, especially if she cuts tax from the bottom instead of the top, but it will be a long old two years from December onwards and by New Year I’d expect Labour to be just about favourites to win most seats.
But that’s no gimme as the next tranche of boundary changes favours the Tories.
I think a Hung Parliament is now a racing certainty.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I don’t agree cork but fair enough
It’s not just views and stance, it’s the feeling of inclusiveness. Rishi you feel is talking to the whole electorate. It’s very blair and that’s no bad thing. It his manner and ability to articulate
Truss sounds wooden and instinctively defensive. It’s us vs all you bastards
Apparently Truss would make Thérèse Coffey Home Secretary.
No….words.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"It’s another point. Does she appear to be the type to stuff the cabinet with the brightest and the best?
A common factor with overachieving shifty types is their chronic (and understandable) insecurity
Maybe I’m being harsh but it’s going to be has beens with no credibility except loyalty to the glorious leader or thickos
And it’s increasingly could be continuing the trend of a party within a party. As per conundrum and his shadow cabinet of the (largely) useless
Talking of Hague. He’s only 60? Obviously he’s enjoying his life now but a cut above most of these I would suggest
Also refutes the (laughable) idea that only those too thick to make money go into politics. His cv was stellar and regardless of his faults, no one ever called him dim
In truth “making money” often gets boring and many successful business people crave something new to stimulate. Politics has its issues but could never be called dul
“Difference between Truss and Starmer is huge and it will make a massive difference to the country.”
It really won’t. The direction of travel is broadly the same, just quicker with Starmer.
Anyway, if Sunak loses let us see how long he will stay as MP for Richmond, North Yorkshire. He may have to stay until the next election to avoid looking too obvious. But I doubt he will stay any longer.
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And I will personally not go within a hundred miles of voting for a over achiever who has done no more than switch her “views” constantly to simply further her career
I believe you live in the marginal Twickenham consituency, currently held by the LDs, so presumably that’s where your tactical vote will be going
Mine is York Central, now one of the safest Labour seats in the country, so no tactics from me just a cross for the rather good Rachael Maskell who is ostensibly fairly far left but is a diligent and well-regarded constituency MP
Some pundit on the box the other day made the not unreasonable point that should Truss prove to be a disastrous PM, then the Conservative party will have little hesitation in removing her pronto: they’re a brutal outfit
I remain of the belief that an early election is distinctly possible, though not probable
I think I am right in saying that York Central is unique in being completely surrounded by one other constituency: York Outer.
Central is safe Labour, whereas Outer is Conservative.
Rachel Maskell is one of 26 Co-operative Party MPs in Parliament, under the Labour Co-op banner. My previous MP, Louise Ellman, was also a Co-op MP.
It is a good pub quiz question to ask “What is the fourth largest party in Parliament?” Very few people answer it correctly!
1.43 “The Truss-ter (which I don’t)!”
3.3 Sunak floundering in his kayak!
The famous, brutal, Tory Election-winning machine is at the apex of the Conservative Party food chain in Westminster – The Daily Mail-reading Massive, the Membership, seem poised to remind Daily Telegraph readers they’re outnumbered, even if they do possess collectively more brain cells.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I think I am right in saying that York Central is unique in being completely surrounded by one other constituency: York Outer
There’s one other: Bath, which is surrounded by Rees-Mogg’s North-East Somerset
York Central and York Outer were created by the boundary changes made prior to the 2010 election. The constituencies covering these areas were formerly City Of York and Vale Of York. Much nicer names
City Of York was for a long time a key Labour-Conservative marginal seat. Conservative during the ’50s and ’80s, it and its successor York Central have been Labour since 1992 and very securely so since the ‘Blair landslide’ of 1997
The incumbent from 1992-2015 was one Hugh Bayley; something of a non-entity and Blairite nodding donkey. I voted Liberal Democrat and later Green while he was in office; but have voted Labour (or rather for Rachael Maskell) since then
Sunak’s team are banking on the TV debates turning things around and are imploring the Membership to delay voting until they’ve heard them all.
“Truss is mental and will get found out at the hustings,” one Sunak supporter in Westminster told The Guardian.
The Spectator are saying the idea of members waiting is fanciful – many will vote on 1st August as soon as the ballot papers arrive and then go away on holiday for the summer, they predicted.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“There’s one other: Bath, which is surrounded by Rees-Mogg’s North-East Somerset.”
Oh yes, I had forgotten about that one!
I must admit I had not realised that City of York had been renamed to the much duller sounding York Central. Agree Vale of York was much nicer than “York Outer”.
I think Chester is still called City of Chester. Another seat that has turned from blue to solid red. The last Conservative MP for the city was Gyles Brandreth. Which might go some way to explaining why it is now safe for Labour.
), likely to appeal to ‘other’ voters with strong views on immigration, PC nonsense, etc.
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