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    hiding behind the GN old wives’ tale that you need a good 2 and-a-half miler to win it. If that were ever true surely Thisthatandtother would have skooshed in last year from where he was 3 out?

    Seconded. I think I first heard that line trotted out in regard of The Tsarevich before his tilt at the race, and then again for a few years after (i.e. “Well, you know, The Tsarevich nearly won…”). Tsk.

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    hiding behind the GN old wives’ tale that you need a good 2 and-a-half miler to win it. If that were ever true surely Thisthatandtother would have skooshed in last year from where he was 3 out?

    Seconded. I think I first heard that line trotted out in regard of The Tsarevich before his tilt at the race, and then again for a few years after (i.e. “Well, you know, The Tsarevich nearly won…”). Tsk.

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    Not that much of an old wives’ tale imo.
    Way back before the fences were emasculated, it used to be more of a jumping test than a test of stamina, and was won by one 2.5 miler in Gay Trip, and a number of others ran well in it.
    I know that Red Rum held the course record for a number of years whilst jumping those fences, but that was on lightning fast ground and, I believe, the year he was towed along by the mighty Crisp right up to the elbow; another horse that generally plied his trade over much shorter.

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    All perfectly true, but there aren’t too many examples I can think of in more recent times. Red Marauder at a pinch, maybe, but then there was little that typical about the year he won.

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    dont know why but drombeag names keeps jumping out at me? does he wear blinkers or visor as that is meant to be a negative with onle earth summit in recent years wearing them to victory
    come on simon

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    #156648
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    Didn’t like Mr Pointment’s chances anyway as the plan is not to run before the race and historically you need to have run that calender year to win it. The weight is a final nail in the coffin.
    On a form line through Denman in last year’s Sun Allaince, Snowy Morning would have an ideal chance, will still be off a handy weight even if they go up and has form in both chases and hurdle races to suggest he’ll see the trip out well. But his price is a little skinny even at this stage.
    2 I do like are Comply or Die and Naunton Brook. Based on his novice form which was very good (Sun Allaince 2nd) and his staying on 4th in that season’s Hennessy, Comply or Die has a big chance off 139. He looked a bit one paced last time at Haydock when beaten by the very well treated Cloudy Lane on ground that was too heavy for both of them. At around the 40/1 mark he’d be the best Pipe horse in my book. Naunton Brook has been running well in marathon chases for the past 2 years and while he’s best on soft ground, he did win last autumn on good. Best when given an uncontested lead, he ran a good enough race last year leading for a long way and will be better for the experience a being a year older.

    Don’t often blow my own trumpet, but can’t resist it this once.

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    Awesome effort.

    Hope you got on at 40s.

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    Yeah I had £20 ew at 40s and another £40 ew at 25s, which will pay for a trip to South Africa this autumn.

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