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  • #9911
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    I was looking back at Grand National results and could remember most of the horses I backed. Great reminder for me of how hard it is to find the winner

    Here’s my list from 1960

    1965 2nd Freddie 9th Tant Pis
    1966 2nd Freddie, 3rd The Forest Prince and 4th The Fossa
    1967 What a Myth Fell Different Class b/d
    1668 2nd Moider’s Token 3rd Different Class
    1969 3rd Rondetto 6th Arcturus
    1970 Gay Trip-Won
    1971 4th Bowgeeno unp Two Springs
    1972 2ng Gay Trip
    1973 2nd Crisp 4th Spanish Steps
    1974 unpl Scout 4th Spanish Steps
    1975 3rd Spanish Steps unp The Dickler
    1976 4th Barona
    1978 don’t know unpl
    1979 4th Rough and Tumble
    1980 2nd Rough and Tumble
    1981 Aldaniti-Won
    1982 Don’t know unpl
    1983 unp Peaty Sandy
    1984 2nd Greaspaint
    1985 unpl Classified
    1986 WestTip-Won 3rd Classified
    1987 2nd The Tsarevich
    1988 Ryme N Reason-Won
    1989 Little Polvier-Won
    1990 Mr Frisk-Won
    1991 unpl Bonanza Boy
    1992 4th Dockland’s Express
    1993 non race
    1994 3rd Moorcroft Boy
    1995 unpl Master Oats 4th Dubacilla
    1996 Rough Quest-Won
    1997 unpl Master Oats unpl AvroAnson
    1998 unpl Brave Highlander
    1999 4th Addington Boy unpl Brave Highlander
    2000 No bet
    2001 Red Maurader-Won 2nd Smarty 3rd Blowing Wind u/r Beau
    2002 No Bet
    2003 No Bet
    2004 No Bet
    2005 No Bet
    2006 No Bet
    2007 No Bet
    2008 Fell Butler’s Cabin unpl Chelsea Harbour

    only 8 winners in 23 years

    Best bet : Ryme N Reason

    can you remember many of your bets/winners and which one was your best bet?

    #202954
    moehat
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    Team Spirit @ 28/1 more years ago than I care to remember which kicked off the addiction I guess! usually manage to back the winner but choose to forget just how many actual bets I have on the run up to the race [and then more on the day in a panic]..I know thats cheating…Monty’s Pass in recent years; also @ 28/1 and Seagram before that, but can’t remember his price; Seagram being the one that made me realize that you could work out the winner rather than it being a lottery..[what happened to you from 2002-7 Mr Fist? how could you possiblynot have a bet on the most exciting race in the history of the universe?]

    #202955
    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Have you done a stats. analysis, Fist? Might be interesting to see if you’re improving with age. Seems fairly consistent to me.

    #202957
    carvillshill
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    Wow, any chance of a made-up list of all the horses you’ve backed since 1860 so we can marvel even more…..oh sorry, I see you’ve already done that elsewhere in the Forum. :D

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    I was looking back at Grand National results and could remember most of the horses I backed. Great reminder for me of how hard it is to find the winner

    only 8 winners in 23 years

    Only 8 :lol: How much profit to a pound level stake?

    My list is purely in financial terms in order of the most money won although I also had Docklands Express like yourself, what a brave effort from a small horse and he did bring home the each way money. How the hell did you pick Little Polveir? Couldn’t have had it on my mind.

    1. Earth Summit
    2 Rough Quest
    3 Mr Frisk
    4 Rhyme N Reason
    5 West Tip
    6 Grittar

    Unfortunately been nowhere near the winner in recent years, think it’s to do with all these Irish horses that have been hurdling and since Phil Smith started doing the handicap :twisted:

    #202968
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    I messed up I backed Little Polvier in the Scottish Grand National not at Aintree. Hate talking money but I had 300 quid EW at 16/1 on him morning prices and how on earth I never backed him in the National I have no ideabut it was a couple of years later.

    Reason I didn’t back anything for 5 years was I changed my betting startegy:- Increased stakes and only bet when I felt I was on to something.

    Thought I was onto something with Butler’s Cabin who was fancied like crazy. Turned out I was "On to rice" :lol:

    #202972
    dubai_millennium
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    My biggest National bet was Point Barrow in ’07, thought everything was perfect for him and grabbed some 9/1 about a week before the race. He’d never fallen before if I remember correctly but chose to do so at the 1st this time!

    #202977
    MCFC Stan
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    I remember a few from the late 80s but think first bet was on whatever Dunwoody rode in 93.
    my first winner was Rough Quest and remember my dad not being happy because he backed Encore Un Peu.
    My next winner was Earth Summit which I was lucky enough to get 16s for just as the rains came on the Thursday but before they closed the book for final decs. Next winner was Papillion before having 1st and 2nd for the last 2 years.

    #202978
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    As mentioned before, Aldaniti’s win was the most memorable for me. I backed the horse ante – post at 20/1.

    A close second has to be Toby Balding’s Highland Wedding in 1969. Our whole family ( and relatives ) were on as my elder sister was getting married that particular day. I know, we just had to back the horse. :lol: My father collected all our bets and nipped into the bookie’s prior to the big occasion. Fate decreed that the horse would surely win – and it did. 8) :wink:

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #202979
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    Not had any big wins (more interested in being able to back the winner as it’s so difficult) but my winners since I started in 1977 are’

    Corbiere
    West Tip
    Mr Frisk
    Minnehoma
    Earth Summit
    Bindaree
    Numbersixvalverde

    The one I remember most was Bindaree as I saw him win a novice hurdle at Carlisle when he was 5 and walking back to the winners enclosure told my brother that I thought he could win a National – wonder what price I would have got that day?

    #202983
    Magistretti
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    Only been following horse racing since 2003 and since then I’ve had 2 national winners: Hedgehunter (2005) and Comply Or Die (2008). Hedgehunter was a big win for me as I took him antepost at 25/1. Ahh, the memories :D

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    My favourite winner (and I haven’t had many) was Hallo Dandy, who I identified the previous year (4th I think). Very satisying.
    However, the twenty or so I’ve ‘identified the previous year’ since then have proven I’m not the National guru I thought I was at that time.

    #202995
    mellington
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    I always seem to do quite well in the national.got comply or die last year amberleigh house in 2004 both at a juicy price.
    But there late 90s were the best

    1997 Lord gylene and suny bay (ew)
    1998 earth summit an suny bay again
    1999 bobbyjo

    Thats probably one of the reasons its my favourite race.

    #203004
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    As mentioned before, Aldaniti’s win was the most memorable for me. I backed the horse ante – post at 20/1.

    A close second has to be Toby Balding’s Highland Wedding in 1969. Our whole family ( and relatives ) were on as my elder sister was getting married that particular day. I know, we just had to back the horse. :lol: My father collected all our bets and nipped into the bookie’s prior to the big occasion. Fate decreed that the horse would surely win – and it did. 8) :wink:

    I wonder if you remember Aldaniti finishing 4th in the 1st race of the 1975 Cheltenham festival?

    I had bet him at Ascot when he was the rank outsider because he had been of the course for over a year. He never looked in danger of defeat at anytime that day and it was an automatic choice forme to back him in the National. He was a superb jumper and watching the close ups on TV are still fresh in my mind.

    Many said John Thorne messed up on Spartan Missile but my friend who was riding at the meeting said he was visibly moved and as happy as a pig in **** that he had finished second…..good for him says I….Never be another story like it in which must be one of the best Nationals of all time

    I’m ashamed to say, for some reason, I had no idea Bob Champion was recovering from Cancer at the time :oops: and never knew until the movie Champions.

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    Well To Do, L’Escargot, Aldaniti (had the tricast up), West Tip. Don’t seem to have done too well since then. Little Polveir was one of my favourite horses at the time, and I didn’t back him despite the going. I had already lost too much money on Party Politics, and I was about to go on holiday that evening. Kicked myself when I realised he was such a big horse he was almost incapable of falling. Because he always ran with his head down, I ignored Earth Summit because I thought he was a small horse! Fancied Lord Gyllene, but didn’t have a bet on him. Was given a tip for Monty’s Pass by a Danish woman the night before, but ignored it. Picked Papillon, but didn’t have a bet.
    The story I want to tell is when I was 8. I had heard that some people picked their National horse by pin, so as an experiment I closed my eyes and stabbed the pen at the paper. (I did this upstairs so that no one could see me doing something so stupid.) The pen marked out Specify. I looked at his form, decided I didn’t fancy it, and decided that I would continue to stab the paper with my eyes closed until there was only one horse left, and back that. Can’t remember what it was now, but I do remember Specify was 28/1. My great uncle Alfred, who lived with us, was on Specify, but I think he used a different technique.

    #203050
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    I don’t bet, but my late father had Maori Venture off in a big way. He told me that the horse would win the National of his year six months previously. I told him he was a non-staying dodgy jumper who only got three miles around the likes of Wincanton on good ground. Then the horse got beat in the Grand Military Gold Cup three weeks before and I said now tell me that’ll win the National. Bless him, he never did tell me exactly how much he won (he was not a high staker), but he never shut up about it when I disagreed with him about a horse.

    He did the same when Silver Buck won the 1982 Gold Cup and I could not hear of defeat for Night Nurse.

    Further back he would not hear of defeat for Frenchman’s Cove in the 1962 Whitbread. Collected again.

    #203051
    Grasshopper
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    Only been backing in the race seriously since 1992, and have had the following winners:

    Miinnehoma
    Earth Summit
    Numbersixvalverde
    Comply Or Die

    Not a particularly compelling strike-rate, though I did back Miinnehoma and Comply or Die at better than SP.

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