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  • #297495
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    Grayson…..

    Looks like we are pretty much in agreement tonight, I’ve done mixed stakes 2×2 ew doubles, got 20-1 Coolefind, best return of the 4 bets would be him and Mad Victor, worst would be Roulez Cool and That Look but any combo will do me fine!
    I’ve no worries about Polly, in fact she’s a plus in my opinion. I’ve kept back funds for a single on Mad Victor should neither of my first pair win, this weekend is the end of my NH betting season, I might have an interest on Ardanclancy tomorrow but he’s not turned out to be as good as I though he would be after landing a nice ew place on him on his rules debut.
    Good luck with you bets tonight, hope you didn’t plough too much of your Ryeman winnings on Lisadell King, I wouldn’t blame his fall on the jockey.
    Thanks for the info re Bradley, it explains why he didn’t power away from the last as I expected….we were already counting the cash from what would have been our biggest win of the season!!!! :(

    #297612
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    Roulez Cool was most impressive, terrific price although I ended the day a little out of pocket despite a last minute single on Sam Waley-Cohen’s mount.
    My selection(s) for the second race never loked like winning, the winner’s point to point wins to runs ratio was very impressive but let down by recent form, that combined with his advancing years put me off but go back a season or two and he’d have been close to going off as the favourite.

    Tdays EW Thief’s NH bet is another with good Pointing form, RIMINI 2.00 Fontwell, he’s three out of four since joining Dia Rees

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    Tdays EW Thief’s NH bet is another with good Pointing form, RIMINI 2.00 Fontwell, he’s three out of four since joining Dia Rees

    7-1 3rd and a tad unlucky, he nearly got knocked over on the bend approaching the straight. Race won by the only other winning pointer in the field, :( with the 4-11 fav nowhere to be seen without a good set of binoculars

    #297716
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    Winning pointer ARDNACLANCY (Cartmel 4.30) has dissapointed slightly over regulation fences but has gradually been getting his act togther as the season progressed and he won’t find a better opportunity than today. Although the trip might be on the sharp side he looks a fairly safe bet to be in the 1-2-3 but no more than a moderate EW is advised.

    #297771
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    ARDNACLACY W4-1 nice performance, strange action but he jumped really well and he’s begining to look the horse I thought he was…at last…although he’s been off colour for a month or two apparently, I found that out just too late to increase my bet!!

    #297806
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    I seem to be on a run in the last couple of weeks, all posted, some prices at time of post…

    Won 4-1 (Hunter Chase)
    Won 4-1 (Flat)
    Place 7-1 (Hurdle)
    Place 4-1 (Flat)
    Unplaced (Hunter Chase)
    Won 5-2 (Hunter Chase)
    Unplaced (Hunter Chase)
    Place 10-1 (Hunter Chase)
    Won 8-11 (Novice Chase)
    Unplaced (Hurdle)
    Won 5-1 (Hurdle)
    Won 11-2 (Hunter Chase)
    Place 11-2 (H’Chase)

    Nothing worth a bet tomorrow but I’ve earmarked a couple of Hunters for later in the week…..

    #297823
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    ARDNACLACY W4-1 nice performance, strange action but he jumped really well and he’s begining to look the horse I thought he was…at last…although he’s been off colour for a month or two apparently, I found that out just too late to increase my bet!!

    Nice work, sir!

    Mackenzie & Harris

    made the point last year that "his legs go everywhere", and wonder if that is how current connections were able to pick him up so cheaply. I suspect it had a lot to do with it.

    Yes, I thought he would go on a bit better this season after his third in the "Walrus" at Haydock, but time is still on his side to progress again if he’s over all his setbacks, and I note that they’re thinking of running him in the last hunter of the season at Hexham this Saturday before drawing stumps. David Carr has the option of running him outside of hunters under permit, as he has with Coastley, but I don’t think they’re thinking along those lines.

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    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #297825
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    Tdays EW Thief’s NH bet is another with good Pointing form, RIMINI 2.00 Fontwell, he’s three out of four since joining Dia Rees

    7-1 3rd and a tad unlucky, he nearly got knocked over on the bend approaching the straight.

    Indeed, may well have got a bit closer without the trouble. I actually wondered at first why Dai Rees hadn’t kept him to points until the end of the season, just to help John Mathias’s national men’s rider title bid (still ongoing!); but on reflection the answer might have been that, fastish as it was, Fontwell is likelier to produce a better racing surface than most Welsh point tracks at this time of the year and they won’t want to risk this very gifted animal on "Welsh pointing firm", for want of a better expression. He’d already been beaten once on good to firm at Cilwendeg in March as it is.

    I’d like to see how far they can go with him this summer and autumn before Open points beckon again. Half-brother to Francois Doumen’s Sandown hurdles winner Spunk, if memory serves.

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    #297839
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    It’s good to find someone else with a love of pointers/hunters. My interest began with Reg Tweedie’s Freddie back in the early 60s, unfortunate to be foaled the same year as Arkle and Mill House. I always felt he’d have won a Gold Cup or two at any other time in the last fifty years.
    I’m still waiting to find another as good as he was, Elegant Lord came closest, Kingsciff flatter to deceive but I’ve always insisted he injured himself at Haydock (2ndfence) in his first defeat and he was feeling it ever since. However I believe An Siorrac may well turn out to be the best ever although I doubt if he’ll be seen in another hunter chase.

    #297844
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    PS…that ex pointer Denman wasn’t too bad either :D

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    4.30 CARTMEL

    Considering that the two market leaders are less that reliable in the jumping department, and at 12 and 11 are unlikely to have got their act together any better since their recent attempts, DELIGHTFUL CLICHE (EW @ 10-1) looks the most sensible bet…not a race in which to invest to heavily though.

    #298218
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    Second, backed from early 10-1 to 13-2, a long way clear with a furlong to go and clearly the best horse in the race, but caught on the line by a 22-1 "no hoper" Can’t say I was too impressed with the jockey, she looked over the wrong shoulder on the final bend and didn’t see the winner who was third and not really going anywhere at the time, still a (small) profit is still a profit although I feel right now that I’ve had my pocket picked for £550 :(

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    Hmm, a very un-Gina-like error to be looking the wrong way from Gina Andrews, who is massively gifted and mature for her callow years (only just 18, if memory serves) and multiple champion lady rider in the making.

    It’s not much of an excuse, perhaps, but this would have been her first visit to Cartmel, whereas Tristan "the galloping milkman" Davidson will have been coming here at least once a year for 15 years or so now and had more of an idea of how to ride the course.

    Delightful Cliche is, as the

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    ‘s post-analysis has already alluded to today, about as slippery as Lord Mandelson in a Swarfega marinade (I saw him offer little late on when headed at Huntingdon last week), but I thought that quirky old Cartmel may have amused him long enough for him to maintain his effort right to the line. It did not, alas, and although Gina’s erroneous glance gives detractors something to level at her, I think the gelding was at least as culpable.

    The novelty of racing can wear off pretty quickly with Delightful Cliche, and it’s noticeable that his two wins this season came on his second start at Ampton (I did the race-reading for that meeting – it was a race he couldn’t lose with nothing else fit or able any more) and a Folkestone hunter chase three weeks ago (desperately tried to dog it close home). Mackenzie & Harris’s assertion in last season’s

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    that, "he possibly still doesn’t work as hard as he might" stands every chance of being upgraded to something a touch stronger come the 52nd edition of the Good Book this November!

    From memory, it’s almost four years to the day since the (at the time) equally tricky Border Fusion tossed away an identical opportunity in the same race having been clear under Gary Hanmer after the last. What this endearingly barking course inspires some horses to do, eh…

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    #298279
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    It’s possibly also worth mentioning that Thunder Hawk won the last hunter chase of the 2008 season (the one that takes place at Hexham this coming Saturday) under Tristan Davidson, so this is likely his time of year. A failure in this corresponding Cartmel race last season was almost certainly ground-related.

    This all sounds wise after the event, but given he prefers to dominate and other pace influences existed in the race (not least the ultimate runner-up), I couldn’t have especially fancied him today. My money went the same was as Cheltenham Specialist’s did. Ach well.

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    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #298335
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    Hmm, a very un-Gina-like error to be looking the wrong way from Gina Andrews, who is massively gifted and mature for her callow years (only just 18, if memory serves) and multiple champion lady rider in the making.

    On reflection I may have been over critical, especially in view of your knowledge of the horse. I’ve been impressed by Gina Andrews on the occasions I’ve seen her ride and she wouldn’t be the first jockey to look over the wrong shoulder on the run in

    It’s not much of an excuse, perhaps, but this would have been her first visit to Cartmel, whereas Tristan "the galloping milkman" Davidson will have been coming here at least once a year for 15 years or so now and had more of an idea of how to ride the course.

    Delightful Cliche is, as the

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    ‘s post-analysis has already alluded to today, about as slippery as Lord Mandelson in a Swarfega marinade

    WONDERFUL description, sell it to Private Eye

    (I saw him offer little late on when headed at Huntingdon last week),

    Mandy or Delightful Cliche?

    but I thought that quirky old Cartmel may have amused him long enough for him to maintain his effort right to the line. It did not, alas, and although Gina’s erroneous glance gives detractors something to level at her, I think the gelding was at least as culpable.

    Agreed!

    The novelty of racing can wear off pretty quickly with Delightful Cliche, and it’s noticeable that his two wins this season came on his second start at Ampton (I did the race-reading for that meeting – it was a race he couldn’t lose with nothing else fit or able any more) and a Folkestone hunter chase three weeks ago (desperately tried to dog it close home). Mackenzie & Harris’s assertion in last season’s

    Annual

    that, "he possibly still doesn’t work as hard as he might" stands every chance of being upgraded to something a touch stronger come the 52nd edition of the Good Book this November!

    From memory, it’s almost four years to the day since the (at the time) equally tricky Border Fusion tossed away an identical opportunity in the same race having been clear under Gary Hanmer after the last. What this endearingly barking course inspires some horses to do, eh…

    I love the place, we need more quirky racecourses. One of my biggest racing regrets is that I made a late decision not to make the trip to Cartmel the day Gay Future won his infamous novice hurdle, we were living just over the Border at the time, apparently it was like watching Istabraq run in a selling hurdle

    TODAY’S BET FOR THE EW THIEF
    A small wager EW on HILFIGER in the first at Newton Abbot. He is a triple winner on the flat in Germany and has form against Titurel (OR 107 Flat) who’s run well at Meydan this spring (Sht Hd 2nd to Age Of Reason)

    If Hilfinger settles he should be far too good for the opposition but he will have to settle better today than on his forst two hurdle runs. Looks fair sound EW but not for huge money at the 7-2 looks fairly skinny

    #298652
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    Last Hunter Chase of the season at Hexham tomorrow and there seems to be four horses in with a chance, Bow School who I’ll pass on which I might regret, he held on well beating the useful Farmer Frank last time out.
    Take The Stand who might find the trip a shade on the sharp side and I prefer younger improvers in Hunter Chases.
    The slightly ungainly Ardnaclancy who finally put it all together at Catmel.
    Scotch Warrior who was very impressive at Perth and is hard to by pass
    ARDNACLANCY looks to fulfilling early season promise and I’ll stick with him tomorrow, the 7-1 forecast price sounds generous, but there again so does the 10-1 about Scotch Warrior who might be well worth a saver as it’s hard to see him out of the frame

    #298779
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    LAST MINUTE SELECTION : KING ROCCO EW @ 8-1 in the Hunter Chase at Listowel, danger, obviousy, is Outlaw Pete.
    Unbeaten in two points, King Rocco has been entered in Bumpers and Novice Hurdles recently which suggests this race might be a stepping stone to a higher grade.

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