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As Corm has stated that it won’t affect you so why are you bothered?
So as a gentile in Nazi Germany you obviously wouldn’t have been bothered about watching watching millions of Jews be carted off to gas chambers.
The above comment has to be the stupidest statement that I have ever read on this forum. It is unbelievably insensitive and ridiculous to compare the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis to a Racing Forum not allowing new members with certain e-mail accounts to join.
Pete
And I’ve had countless PM’s asking me to stop, so I know what I’m talking about……………
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As Corm has stated that it won’t affect you so why are you bothered?
So as a gentile in Nazi Germany you obviously wouldn’t have been bothered about watching watching millions of Jews be carted off to gas chambers.
The above comment has to be the stupidest statement that I have ever read on this forum. It is unbelievably insensitive and ridiculous to compare the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis to a Racing Forum not allowing new members with certain e-mail accounts to join.
Pete
And to think, if you weren’t already a member and only had a Yahoo or Hotmail account, you wouldn’t have been allowed to tell me so.
gh makes me laugh too, but even though hopefully all will ignore these scam-tipping/system adverts it only takes one person not to and a forum member will have been fleeced by a forum appointed and approved crook’s advert to come and be mugged
i guess the ends justify the means when it comes to funding but condoning shysters is a bit steep, imo
nb – if the forum are scamming the scammers by taking their advertising money in the knowledge they won’t get any business from the erudite members here, that’s all right then
ps – the phrases scammers, shysters and crooks are mine and mine alone and could be way off the mark
I think I’m generally against the idea of banning hotmail etc accounts as I have a hotmail account, which Im pretty sure I joined with and so it would be very hipocritical of me to be in favour of stopping others in the same boat as myself from joining.
I definitely see that there appears to be people who just change their hotmail address and rejoin when banned, and that can pose problems, but I personally think that the increased number of moderators should be tried out for a spell before such a drastic measure as banning all hotmails etc is enforced.
I think the banning of such a large group of people will turn the forum into more of a club for those already here. I think the arrival of new members is something that must be welcomed and think that Hugh Taylor’s excellent input as a new member on the 2nd strings thread is proof that a closed door policy isnt necessarily in the best interests of the forum.
I dont think you can have a perfect system but its a case of trying to find the best workable system and whereas we all have different ideas as to what the best workable system is, I personally feel that a 100% ban on the vast majority of email addresses is a quick fix knee-jerk reaction that may do as much harm as good in the long term IMHO.
Maybe you should invite those wanting to becomes members to the local Lodge. You could then force them to go through a few initiation games before shoving a pool cue up their jacksies.
Its only a forum guys ….. dont you think that some of you are getting a wee bit carried away in your own self importance.
Anyone who goes to the trouble of creating a hotmail account just to get back onto a poxy racing forum deserves to be allowed in, if only to reward their ingenuity/desparation.
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Sounds like you could be talking from experience WW…..
(Note – this only applies to NEW applicants from today, not those already registered on the forum).
As Corm has stated that it won’t affect you so why are you bothered? Just like any statesman, Corm has to do what he thinks is best for the majority not the minority, and if you’d rather see the site bombarded with strange people then I think that sad.
I’m not "bothered" I simply asked out of interest, as I couldn’t see the reasoning behind it. I’m not against the decision, merely enquiring about it.
I don’t wish the site to be bombarded any more than anyone else does.I wish Corm and his team all the luck in the World, they’re gonna need it!
No wonder this forum comes in for such negative feedback amongst certain of the media where i have heard it described variously as "The Racist Forum" and "The Racing Fascists" amongst others. you would do well to bear this in mind, Cormack 15.
Really? News to me, where, and by whom, pray tell us?
I use a gmail account because they give 3gb storage. My paid for one only gives 50mb
Nothing wrong with gmail in my books, and it’s great as a deposit bank for the spammers.Echo what Venusian says – that’s the first I’ve heard of TRF supposedly possessing such a reputation. Please spill.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
The method of password verification by post (which by the sounds of it is no longer used) has much to recommend it in my opinion. Surely being requested to provide real name and address (not a PO Box number) will dissuade those whose only intention is to spam and troll from bothering to join. It will also prevent banned members from re-subscribing under a new alias.
Obviously the requirement to divulge ‘name and address’ is not foolproof, as those really intent on maintaining anonymity will find a way around it, but it nevertheless does seem an eminently better way of preventing ne’er do wells from joining than the mooted – rather draconian – idea of banning all those with hotmail etc e-mail accounts en-masse.
And once it is known TRF requires the above credentials, I very much doubt the situation Aidan finds himself in of dealing with "50-60 requests in a day" will arise.
Of course I quite understand that dealing with ‘hard copy’ registration is both time-consuming and fund-consuming; so I suppose Cormack & Co can judge for themselves whether the extra effort is worthwhile, by the value they personally place on their baby.
For my part, in addition, I would have no problem with a nominal one-off registration fee of say a fiver being levied on all members old and new to help with running costs. Should whittle down the 5000 or so ‘sleepers’ on the list considerably.
If you don’t want to register or pay then TRF is still available to be read as a ‘guest’, you just won’t be able to contribute.
The reasoning behind the restriction on those using hotmail, yahoo, googlemail accounts is that all the recent probs have come from people using such accounts. In addition it makes traceability of an individual easier in the event that someone does post something illegal (re – the recent Denmania episode where some decidely dodgy pornographic images were displayed on the site – not the first time that has happened). Finally, I have recently been on the receiving end of some highly abusive personal emails from members and ex-members, all using hotmail and yahoo accounts. These emails have not only contained abusive material directed at me but also libellous material about other forum members. I’m compelled to address that.
Anyone trying to register with a hotmail, etc, account is not simply being excluded. They are being mailed and asked to provide another type of email, no one is being excluded wholly on the basis of the email address. It is up to people if they then want to do that and become a member. Again I would stress that this does not affect existing members who do not need to provide an alternative address.
Lots of people have complained lately about percieved loss of quality on the forum and I do have some time for that argument hence my steps to take action. I’d prefer to have slightly fewer new bona-fide members than to let the thing spiral out of control.
I’ll review and if it’s not working I will reconsider.
Aidan, having direct experience of what is involved, hit it on the head. We get loads of rogue regsitrants and I have to literally sit and go through each one, assessing whether they are genuine or a potential problem. If I open the door too wide the spammers and nutjobs create havoc and everyone immediately starts screaming about the forum going downhill. It takes ages each week and is a nigh on impossible job to get 100% correct.
Sal/Bulwark – I’m sympathetic to your views but I feel that we need to try to control who becomes members to avoid problems rather than deal with them once they are on here.
Underscore – quote Its only a forum guys ….. dont you think that some of you are getting a wee bit carried away in your own self importance – Harsh – I’m just trying to run it to the best advantage of forum members.
Welsh Wizard –
quote – Surely it is simple enough to ban anyone posting undesirable content within at least 24 hours of them doing so. I’d like to avoid it getting to that stage. As an allegedly media savvy individual you’ll recognise that we have certain duties of care to be duly diligent about what is published on here.
quote – ‘No wonder this forum comes in for such negative feedback amongst certain of the media where i have heard it described variously as “The Racist Forum” and “The Racing Fascists” amongst others.‘ I suspect the ‘certain of the media’ who have described us ‘variously’ can be counted on the fingers of the one hand of my local butcher (or one-fingered Bert as he’s known hereabouts). To imply the forum is racist is, quite simply, pathetic and is not worthy of comment. I suspect the ‘fascist’ remark is aimed at the level of moderation (which, ironically enough, we’ve just tightened further). I make no apologies for this as I believe the care and time that’s taken to ensure the forum remains free of idiots/spammers is linked to it’s success.Drone – the postal verification is time consuming, costly and is therefore impractical.
About time too something like this was being done, lets get this forum back to the way it once was.
May I just ask, have some fairly vociferous posters recently left the forum?
Something seems to be missing, or, more likely, perhaps I’ve missed a key episode.
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