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- November 18, 2008 at 06:22 #190391
To do with a comment about Irish starters, wasn’t it?
November 18, 2008 at 13:42 #190411Matt Chapman has worked on the front line of racing and through experience has gained enough knowledge of the industry to paint his colourful picture! Occasionally his tongue that he uses as his brush gets a bit carried away and he creates a "PicAsso" which unfortunately is not to everyones taste! Jim Mcgrath C4 on the other hand in my opinion is the most knowledgeable person in racing! but with a moustache he would be Adolf Hitlers twin brother and his paintings are very black and white, he lacks any colour to his personality! At the end of the day it comes down to Personal choice!!
November 18, 2008 at 17:27 #190443Chapman is just another ex public school boy/girl that proliferate the media of our beloved sport.
Most of them don’t know the backend from the front of a racehorse and seem to think that reciting the formbook over and over again is acceptable and qualifies them as knowing what they are talking about.Rubbish Presenters:John McWillock, Lydia ‘aftertime’Hislop,Steve’On the Fence’Mellish,Paul ‘Mumbo Jumbo’northern aristocracyso dull I can’t remember his name,James’Pompous’Willoughby,Robert’Oh I’m at the races!!’ Cooper,Luke ‘I’m a Twit aren’t I!!’Harvey,Johnathan ‘I’ve spent my whole life racing and still can’t understand whats important’Neesom and many more.
Good Presenters:Graham Cunningham,David Duggan,Jason Weaver,Dykey Balding,Giggling Carson,Ray Cochrane,Jim ‘Lovely Boy’McGrath,Angus’Open neck shirt’McNae,Eddie’Is it a wig or not?Freemantle,
Chapman:Sometimes I like him sometimes I don’t.
The rest you can take em or leave em
What do you lot think?November 18, 2008 at 18:24 #190454Chapman is absolutely Brilliant. I dont know what it is about British tv but if you have your own views and call it as it is you get slated.
Chapman is upfront and calls it as he sees it and will admit when he is wrong. Ted Walsh is the very same ,these boys dont mind going against the grain and if they see something they aren’t afraid to say it out. Maybe they would be more "popular" if they sat on the ditch like so many of their colleagues do.November 18, 2008 at 18:47 #190458Chapman is just another ex public school boy/girl that proliferate the media of our beloved sport.
Most of them don’t know the backend from the front of a racehorse and seem to think that reciting the formbook over and over again is acceptable and qualifies them as knowing what they are talking about.Rubbish Presenters:John McWillock, Lydia ‘aftertime’Hislop,Steve’On the Fence’Mellish,Paul ‘Mumbo Jumbo’northern aristocracyso dull I can’t remember his name,James’Pompous’Willoughby,Robert’Oh I’m at the races!!’ Cooper,Luke ‘I’m a Twit aren’t I!!’Harvey,Johnathan ‘I’ve spent my whole life racing and still can’t understand whats important’Neesom and many more.
Good Presenters:Graham Cunningham,David Duggan,Jason Weaver,Dykey Balding,Giggling Carson,Ray Cochrane,Jim ‘Lovely Boy’McGrath,Angus’Open neck shirt’McNae,Eddie’Is it a wig or not?Freemantle,
Chapman:Sometimes I like him sometimes I don’t.
The rest you can take em or leave em
What do you lot think?I think there’s a space after a comma and calling Miss Balding Dykey is a bit much. Did you work in racing or with horses?
There are people I work with who’ve been in my industry for years but that doesn’t preclude from being useless..
Your comments are reciprocally xenophobic (if that is a phrase I can use)..
November 18, 2008 at 19:31 #190461Chapman is just another ex public school boy/girl that proliferate the media of our beloved sport.
Most of them don’t know the backend from the front of a racehorse and seem to think that reciting the formbook over and over again is acceptable and qualifies them as knowing what they are talking about.Rubbish Presenters:John McWillock, Lydia ‘aftertime’Hislop,Steve’On the Fence’Mellish,Paul ‘Mumbo Jumbo’northern aristocracyso dull I can’t remember his name,James’Pompous’Willoughby,Robert’Oh I’m at the races!!’ Cooper,Luke ‘I’m a Twit aren’t I!!’Harvey,Johnathan ‘I’ve spent my whole life racing and still can’t understand whats important’Neesom and many more.
Good Presenters:Graham Cunningham,David Duggan,Jason Weaver,Dykey Balding,Giggling Carson,Ray Cochrane,Jim ‘Lovely Boy’McGrath,Angus’Open neck shirt’McNae,Eddie’Is it a wig or not?Freemantle,
Chapman:Sometimes I like him sometimes I don’t.
The rest you can take em or leave em
What do you lot think?I think there’s a space after a comma and calling Miss Balding Dykey is a bit much. Did you work in racing or with horses?
There are people I work with who’ve been in my industry for years but that doesn’t preclude from being useless..
Your comments are reciprocally xenophobic (if that is a phrase I can use)..
My grammatical inconsistencies aside, Miss Balding is a self confessed home team player (by the way you should have used quotation marks when quoting ‘Dykey’).
Although grammatically you are once again at fault with the use of the word xenophobic, my assumption is that you consider me to either hate or be fearful of the class from which I have suggested the majority of these people come. This is not so. My comments are based on my personal opinion of the individual presenters listed and they are mostly accompanied by a phrase to describe them and to lighten the discussion.
Indeed you will note I like a number of them, not hate them all as a xenophobic would.
The fact there are so many ex Oxford/Cambridge students working in the racing media is no coincidence and substantiate my view.
Yes I do work in the racing media.November 18, 2008 at 21:41 #190486My grammatical inconsistencies aside, Miss Balding is a self confessed home team player (by the way you should have used quotation marks when quoting ‘Dykey‘).
Aren’t those inverted commas, rather than "quotation marks"??
Just so we’re clear.
November 18, 2008 at 21:48 #190489I’m more worried that anyone would think that Carson is a decent presenter. He’s awful…..we would get more sense from Desert Orchid.
November 18, 2008 at 21:52 #190490Agreed – Carson is an unutterable, cackling shitehouse.
November 18, 2008 at 22:44 #190500I do not like how this thread is going.
Calling people who don’t even come on here names and can not respond.
Don’t see what matters if a presenter is gay, comes from Oxbridge, Eton, a Lord, talks with a Yorkshire, Wiltshire, East End or plummy accent. As long as they know their racing.
There is just as much anti-snobbery (if that is the word) as snobbery in this country these days. And I left school at 15 from a comprehensive in ‘ampshire.
Carson is not really in there to know his form book.But because he is popular with the ordinary punter in the street. Not us. And has an interesting personality / good double act with Claire Balding.
There are those used as form experts like Jim "Timeform" McGrath.
How anyone can say Lydia Hislop "aftertimes" and Steve Mellish "sits on the fence" beats me.
Mark
Value Is EverythingNovember 18, 2008 at 22:55 #190501Bahram,
I very much doubt Chapman is an ex-Public Schoolboy..
You seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder..
November 18, 2008 at 23:05 #190504"We’re going on a Troll Hunt.
We’re going to catch a big one.
What a beautiful day!
We’re not scared".(with apologies to Michael Rosen)
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November 18, 2008 at 23:30 #190506Has our "long lost friend" Kwai returned?
November 19, 2008 at 01:58 #190529GUYS!!!!
I only said who I liked and who I didn’t and now apparently I’ve got a chip on my shoulder!
If you like the Steve and Lydia show on RUK thats fine
I don’t personally.
Under presenters I like I listed public schoolboys such as Angus McNae.
I’m not class prejudice I just have an opinion.
If I am wrong about the majority coming from such a background prove it and I’ll put my hands up and say I was wrong.
By the way, I bet a large steak dinner Chapman is.
Pass the mustard!
November 19, 2008 at 02:07 #190534What a shame if Matt Chapman as gone.
Everyone as an opinion, however he does not sit on the fence and says it as he sees it.
Agreed sometimes he is wrong but I have no doubt that at some stage we have all watched him and thought he was right about what he says.
The sport needs people like him to speak out on behalf of the punter.
Bring him back and quick.
November 19, 2008 at 02:28 #190542The sport needs people like him to speak out on behalf of the punter.
.Not when they haven’t a clue what they are talking about.
November 19, 2008 at 08:10 #190600
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Did Matt get sacked today?
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