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  • #8758
    halfwaytoheaven
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    [list:2itir6az]1 201501 Baharah 43 G A Butler
    2 113341 Carribean Sunset 20 D K Weld
    3 1-0312 Cheyenne Star 36 Ms F M Crowley
    4 982316 Dimenticata 41 Kevin Prendergast
    5 1-2311 Halfway To Heaven 35 A P O´Brien
    6 -11234 Heaven Sent 35 Sir Michael Stoute
    7 1-2219 Lady Gloria 59 J G Given
    8 1221- Listen 343 A P O´Brien
    9 615121 Lush Lashes 15 J S Bolger
    10 726504 Mooretown Lady 9 H Rogers
    11 057614 Nahoodh 34 M Johnston
    12 675141 Psalm 9 A P O´Brien
    13 31-115 Sabana Perdida 34 A De Royer-Dupre
    14 355022 She´s Our Mark 24 Patrick J Flynn
    15 12d8-21 Visit 36 Sir Michael Stoute 3
    16 21218- You´resothrilling 380 A P O´Brien [/list:u:2itir6az]

    Interesting line up this especially is Sabana Perdida comes over for Royer-Dupre. The rematch of Lush Lashes and Halfway to Heaven aswell as some pretty handy figures in the shape of Carribean Sunset and Baharah.

    Mr Wilson of this board said that it was only a matter of time Baharah stepped up to group company but I cant see her challenging the top few here. A place would be a promising progression.

    It’s got to be Halfway to Heaven for me again. I feel this filly holds the mental edge over Lush Lashes and Jim Bolger and has had the small extra rest since the Goodwood win (Lush Lashes of course had a run out at Newmarket last week).

    Carribean Sunset could be the suprise package here and anything around 6/1 would make me back each way.

    #178968
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    It is an interesting field and perhaps the most interesting runner is Listen who has was highly fancied for the 1000 but obviously has had problems. Hard to see beyond Halfway To Heaven and Lush Lashes though and the latter looks the better filly to me.

    #179386
    Anonymous
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    Baharah for me gents.

    #179390
    Aragorn
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    It is an interesting field and perhaps the most interesting runner is Listen who has was highly fancied for the 1000 but obviously has had problems.

    A P O’Brien "Listen, Listen……" Aidan will be repeating himself repeatedly if she were to win! :)

    #179392
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Lush Lashes for me.

    I’m sure Kevin Manning will be playing it very safe when timing his run this time.

    #179414
    Black Type
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    Nahoodh for me to cause an upset.

    #179423
    halfwaytoheaven
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    Lush Lashes for me.

    I’m sure Kevin Manning will be playing it very safe when timing his run this time.

    EDIT: Ignore me, just deleted my post here where I just stated why Lush Lashes wouldnt win at a mile this time round and then remembered she won impressively at a mile during Royal Ascot.

    Still think HTH will beat LL though as this is HTH dropping down to her preferred distance. LL is favouring the longer distance nowadays and doing it well

    #179428
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    With a username like yours i guessed you might favour HTH.

    Lush Lashes would be my choice although if the rain comes Nahoodh could have a say.

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    #179429
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    EDIT: HTH, I saw your edit, just in time. 8)

    I would’ve thought an ‘administrative error’ would be a positive though.

    Didn’t he ‘misplace’ New Approach in the Derby?

    #179435
    halfwaytoheaven
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    EDIT: HTH, I saw your edit, just in time. 8)

    I would’ve thought an ‘administrative error’ would be a positive though.

    Didn’t he ‘misplace’ New Approach in the Derby?

    Too true sir!

    Looking at it on comparison with that, I guess we werent sure if NA would make the Derby trip. With LL we know she will take the mile as shes’s done it before and with some ease. I still cannot fathom why Bolger’s dropped her down again after good runs higher in trip recently. Are there no more Grp1’s at that level to come??

    Just had a flicker through the odds for this, if anyone wants to take Listen take him on Paddy Power now at 7-1! He’s shortened to 5-1 on the exchanges.

    #179439
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Perhaps a multiple Group 1 winner over a mile makes a more desirable broodmare than one with a clutch of 1m 2f+ Group 1 victories.

    I’m not saying that’s what’s foremost in Jim Bolger’s mind, but it has to be a factor.

    #179527
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    On the likely going (Irish Soft IMO), I think Caribbean Sunset has a great chnace of beating the front 2, both of whom have doubts regarding the ground.

    #179836
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    Lush Lashes ran a very disappointing race on soft on reappearance, very much doubt she is at her best on it.

    Halfway To Heaven is over-rated though could get a soft lead again out in front. Is though (imo) too short in the market.

    Nahoodh ran really well in the Falmouth on going probably between good and good-soft, but ran poorly on reappearance on soft ground.

    So if it is softer than good-soft I’d rather be on Carribean Sunset or an outsider.

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    #179853
    tenbob
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    my ratings

    135 lush lashes
    133 carribean sunset
    132 listen
    127 cheyenne star
    125 nahoodh
    124 halfway to heaven
    119 baharah
    116 psalm
    109 lady gloria
    103 yoursothrilling
    100 mooretown lady

    will back lush lashes to win
    listen ew

    halfway to heaven will properly make me look even more stupid than normal but that the rating i’ve produced for this race.

    #179859
    halfwaytoheaven
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    Nice run by Nahoodh there. Thought that Nahoodh was going to win at one point!

    Well done LL backers

    #179865
    davidjohnson
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    Lush Lashes ran a very disappointing race on soft on reappearance, very much doubt she is at her best on it.

    Sorry have just seen this so forgive me if this seems like aftertiming That race as you say was her reappearaance, and if you watch the video, you can see that she just pulls her riders arms out for most of the way. It wasn’t a great surprise that she had little left when the crunch came. I thought that was more of a factor than the fact that the ground was heavy.

    Good ride by Manning on Lush Lashes. Knew he was on the best filly and knew she stayed. A lesson learned from Goodwood.

    #179905
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    A very sensible ride and a very game performance by Lush Lashes. I thought You’re So Thrilling ran well on her reappearance too – certainly above my expectations.

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