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im looking forward to midday running again, theres no betting on oddschecker for it, but the horse is still entered for this race.
but personally, i can’t see anything beating workforce. if i was a pro gambler, id lump 10k on it now, taking the 11/10.
Would have been good ‘if’ ‘WW’ had of turned up here being the rare German that likes good good ground yah…
he gotten tagen a lot closer to ‘Byword’ last time ’em with a run under his belt!
im looking forward to midday running again, theres no betting on oddschecker for it, but the horse is still entered for this race.
but personally, i can’t see anything beating workforce. if i was a pro gambler, id lump 10k on it now, taking the 11/10.
maybe that’s why you’re not already too short typical Stoute runner overpriced without doubting the horse simply not a 11/10 shot in a group1 race antepost. Hes no STS strange race the Derby this year a pacemaker coming 2nds should tell you something. 
what do u mean i must be short.
by the way, what are you going to back?
and give me a reason why it shouldnt be 11/10.
and give me a reason why ryan moore will pick workforce instead of harbinger
and give me a reason as to why youre so against backing this horse.
I didn’t mean you were short I meant the horse was too short a price. I don’t give the horse a 47% chance of winning ante post without a guarantee of a run.- Total Posts 17716
Herbert made a statement saying SMS is very keen to run Harbinger and they are delighted…..furthermore Ryan Moore will not make a decision until nearer the time on which he rides…..Then in the next breath he talk about getting Johnny Murtagh over from Ireland.
If all of the above were true Workforce would have gone out from 6/5 to possibly 6/4 IMO but he’s gone from 6/5 to evens and 11/10.
You can bet Moore has already made up his mind and will ride Workforce as long as his final peice of work is up to scratch.
Workforce looks certain to go odds on when Moore announces his decision and I would expect him to start around 8/13 on the day.
thick in what way? he gets the job done, thats all that matters. and there wont be a situation involving his final piece of work, he will still pick the horse anyway, unless ruled out due to injury nearer the day.
When I was a lad trainers told jockeys what to ride.They did not let jockeys "pick" horses in their yard.Murtagh will ride for Ballydoyle and probably win after VN showing today that the yard is in great form.WF probably won’t run.I doubt that Stoutie will want another hard race for Workforce before the autumn campaign starts.Especially with the horse being a 3yo.
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Never known for a trainer to pick mounts for a stable jockey……………trainers depend on their jockeys for feed back and those who think they know better than the man on board don’t last too long.
That aside you have me completely bamboozled…Why would SMS one of the most shed aware trainers in the country pull a Derby winner out of one of the most prestigious races in the World?
The man would have to be stark raving bonkers and he’s anything but.
Dear Fist; Most world class trainers hire a jockey who does what he is told and not the other way around. Even Frankie must ride to instructions.But your position on jockeys is certainly worth of debate.The suggetion that jockeys know more than trainers certainly applied to Lestor Piggott.
Perhaps it is differ here, jockeys here don’t do morning work.Agents ask for rides.Like Godolfin, stables stretch across the continent and jockeys don’t.As for giving a horse very hard races back to back for his third and fourth race (after only one race as a two year old);that can take a lot out of a young and inexperienced horse and he may not come back ready to race again until next year.
I am presuming that the KG will be a tough race,it always is.
I agree that SMS is not what you described and I am not suggesting that he is.Dar Re Mi 14/1 now with Tote Sport and Sky Bet.
Can’t help myself…shocking price and hugely overreaction to the Eclipse run! Gosden said before the race that it would put her right on. I know he was still disappointed with the run but she’ll be a different horse at Ascot.
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With Sariska as low as 6s, 14/1 is a shocking price.
One run and she doubled in price. The Eclipse is perfect "forgive the run" territory. She certain is a better chance than 14/1…would you lay her at 14/1?
First run off a layoff, race run unfavourably, too short a distance…I didn’t think she’d win the Eclipse…but then I though Zacinto had a chance
Wait actually! I don’t use the exchanges anymore…just checked the prices there and it looks like a 3 horse race!? Sariska 18/1 for £47, Dar Re Mi 11.5/1 for £22.
Is it just because there are so few definitely running? At least Dar Re Mi is certainly aimed for the race
Sariskas trainer aint dumb he knows shes got no chance unless ground comes up a bog. Neither has Daremi both one paced plodders. No acceleration whatsoever just the ability to stay and grind no chance.
Yet Daremi was seen as a "good thing" in the Eclipse over 10 furlongs at 5/2.
Sariskas trainer aint dumb he knows shes got no chance unless ground comes up a bog. Neither has Daremi both one paced plodders. No acceleration whatsoever just the ability to stay and grind no chance.
Yet Daremi was seen as a "good thing" in the Eclipse over 10 furlongs at 5/2.
That was ridiculous. I in no way bought into that. I knew she wouldn’t be ready for it. She’ll be spot on for this though…
Whos your idea of the winner? Or better still, who is the value in the race in your opinion?
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