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Just noticed that Fame And Glory doesn’t have an entry for this.
Has he been put away for the Summer, or have an injury that hasn’t been publicised?
I suppose it is 95% that he has been put away for the Arc, and 5% for the Melbourne Cup???
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….or hiding from the big boys?
No surprise at all should connections feel ‘job done’, and he develops a problem which precludes him from another Arc thrashing.- Total Posts 17716
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Depends on how highly you rate him – I’d say he ran to form.
I’m completely with Reet on this one. Fame and Glory is crap.
Dar Re Mi for me. Workforce looked brilliant in the Derby but it was an awful race beforehand and At First Sight and Bullet Train didn’t cover themselves in glory. Clearly the former’s not rated in the slightest by Ballydoyle else he’d have gone to the Irish Derby.
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Just my view Zark, but At First Sight woud be a moral for the first 3 in the Leger.
Come on!
He’s a triple Group 1 winner. Imo he doesn’t have the extra gear for an Arc, but he is brilliant at what he does. He’s a grinder, a relentless galloper, a battler. He beat a top class Oaks winning filly in the Coronation, to say the horse is "garbage" is not only wrong, but pure ignorant.
EDIT: 4 Group 1s
Fame and Glory is a Top Class 1m4f horse but not 1m2f.
He last Group 1 was very good performance considering the Ground was too quick to show his best. Always had him down as a Good Ground Horse and not a Good To Firm type.
Personally i don’t think he is good enough to win the Arc this year and would take him on in the Irish Champion if he ran their. Would have loved to see him in the King George tbh.
Not seeing which horse Ballydoyle are sending to the King George but Coolmore don’t regard the race anymore other than a tin pot Group 1 so its not a surprise he misses it.
Not seeing which horse Ballydoyle are sending to the King George but Coolmore don’t regard the race anymore other than a tin pot Group 1 so its not a surprise he misses it.
..you make it sound as though this is also your view…
for tin pot affairs I tend to look at the Irish Derby as conforming to that epithet these days…
..perhaps the race immediately following the King George might be more to his liking, a race that to my mind has no place on a Thoroughbred meeting.
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Would that be the same ‘tinpot race’ they sent their only recent Arc winner – Dylan Thomas – to contest?Not my own view. Think the King George is a great race and thats why i said i love to see Fame and Glory run.
Yes Duke of Marmalade and Dylan Thomas have won it in the past 5 years but they were 4yr olds as has Hurricane Run for Coolmore but their seems a reluctance the past few years to send the "Big Guns" so to speak.
I disappointed that this seems to be happening again this year. I would have Thought a good strong pace over 1m4f on a stiff track with a long straight would have been Fame and Glory ideal circumstance to win a real Top Class race with a runaway Derby Runner in attendance.
Opportunity missed
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I don’t see why they won’t go for the Irish St Ledger, the horse is clearly ridden for his stamina the way he’s so close to the pacemaker were he doesn’t need to use a turn of foot to get him from A to B as the pacemaker will fall into his lap and its just a grinding session to winning line.
Stallion fees MR.W, they want a top flat sire, that.s why I’d say they’d love a G.1 win over 10f. They don’t want to advertise how much stamina the horse has by winning the Irish Leger as there would then probably be more interest as NH sire than flat one.
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Stallion fees MR.W, they want a top flat sire, that.s why I’d say they’d love a G.1 win over 10f. They don’t want to advertise how much stamina the horse has by winning the Irish Leger as there would then probably be more interest as NH sire than flat one.
What about Yeats mate?
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