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- July 8, 2022 at 14:50 #1605967
Stewarding simply not fit for purpose
Any lezoo backers should rightly be very frustrated
July 8, 2022 at 15:06 #1605976I didn’t have a bet in the race, have watched it a few times now and my honest unbiased opinion is that Dawson has his stick in the wrong hand, carries the runner up significantly across the track, but the margin of half a length is too much to be certain it’s affected the result.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 8, 2022 at 15:11 #1605977So what punishment does Ray Dawson get now? He got 8 days recently for his ride on Believe In Love and whilst this is a lesser offence, he keeps offending and winning races.
16 days I reckon.
July 8, 2022 at 15:11 #1605978What is the margin then? It was a neck at Doncaster yesterday and that result stood as well.
Dawson admitted in the enquiry he should have reacted quicker but as the rules stand he does not need to bother.
July 8, 2022 at 15:19 #1605981I meant 1-6 days. He got 3.
July 8, 2022 at 15:22 #1605982“What is the margin then?”
It’s a good question.
For me, it depends on how bad the interference and how far the margin.
In this instance, had it been a head or less I’d have said it wants kicking out.
A neck or half a length and I’m just not sure.
Just my opinion, though.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 8, 2022 at 15:31 #1605984Momentum is the thing – Dettori had to stop riding and rebalance the horse and you could (in my opinion) easily argue that that caused her to lose a similar amount of ground as the winning margin was.
That being said he was never going to get it as remember the Falmouth back in the day between Elusive Kate and Sky Lantern where Elusive Kate carried Sky Lantern halfway across the course and won by a shorter margin and never got the race in the Stewards room.
Was surprised Dawson only got 3 days as it clearly wasn’t careless riding because he still had his whip in his right hand (and used it once) after the final bump before putting it down.
July 8, 2022 at 15:41 #1605986Oh dear….
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 8, 2022 at 15:43 #1605987She looked uncomfortable on the ground to me and two quick races on ultra fast ground maybe the issue or she simply could have bounced.
Happy for Rob Hornby though – no excuses for him not getting the ride back on Westover
July 8, 2022 at 15:44 #1605988Frankie should publicly criticise Gosden’s ability to get a horse fit for a group 1
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July 8, 2022 at 15:51 #1605989Nice win for the Train Set, having got taken off Westover.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 8, 2022 at 15:52 #1605990It’s a horse race.
Inspiral bounced.
Although whether she’s entirely straightforward is at least a little in question.
Can get a little on edge before racing and on a hot day…
By Frankel out of Starscope. Dam placed in the guineas before going the wrong way temperamentally.Value Is EverythingJuly 8, 2022 at 15:55 #1605991Well done for laying the 1/9 shot ginge.
Gosden said he knew she’d bounce or to words of that extent..😂😂Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
July 8, 2022 at 15:59 #1605993“Frankie should publicly criticise Gosden’s ability to get a horse fit for a group 1”
That would’ve been brilliant even if tongue in cheek
July 8, 2022 at 15:59 #1605994Might be in season.
July 8, 2022 at 16:08 #1605998“Well done for laying the 1/9 shot ginge.
Gosden said he knew she’d bounce or to words of that extent”..😂😂—————-
Nathan,
When an opinion is expressed (by TRFer or trainer) post race we have another race to add to all the others in which to judge the horse on. Does not mean we are aftertiming.If I’d been aftertiming I’d have told you that I saw 21/1 Prosperous Voyage just before the off and as I’ve always held her in greater esteem than the market (backed her for both Guineas and Coronation) and as she was the obvious pace in the race here… LOL
Value Is EverythingJuly 8, 2022 at 16:09 #1605999You’d think Inspiral might have started a bit bigger than 1.18 at Betfair, given all these reasons why she was never going to win.
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