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another cock up from j.doyle at plumpton
how emma lavelle keeps him as stable jockey is mind boggling
he’s even worse than p.moloney and thats saying something
So the new thread doesn’t come with an OP containing any information whatsoever about the alleged ‘cock up’…
If you can’t be arsed, I can’t either, pal.
http://www.attheraces.com/VideoConsole/ … 40&vaff=20
I think to blame Doyle for the fall is laughable, horse just put in a poor one.
I agree with you tbracing, I don’t think Doyle was to blame, anymore than Sam Twiston Davis was later on when falling at the same fence. Horses do fall and it is too easy to blame the poor jockey.
Methinks that it may be a case of pocket talking here.It looked like the jockey just wanted to get in close and ‘pop’ it, but ended up taking one stride too many, getting far too close and hitting the top of it.
Jockey error or equine error? Six of one and half a dozen of the other I think.
Doyle saw a decent stride, asked the horse to jump and the swine put down on him. If a horse doesn’t want to jump, it’ll go through the fence and will usually fall like this one did. Horse error.
It’s a fair bet that coming down from a height of about five feet with a ten stone human on your back and landing on ground decribed as good to firm, starts to hurt after you’ve done it a dozen times in the space of five minutes.
So I don’t think it’s entirely fair to blame the horse for trying to either get out of repeating the experience, or at least trying to reduce the height of the jump!
To me, Doyle’s mount looked uncomfortable jumping for most of the race – in fact just about every horse that ran over fences at Plumpton this afternoon gave the impression it would rather be elsewhere.
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ok
let me start by saying i didn’t have a penny on the race
i’m a big fan of emma lavelles, i think she could go right to the top in the training ranks but when youv’e got a cowboy with no bottle or skill as your stable jockey your up against it.
and just look what happened later at plumpton in the 4.10 race
Agree with most others here, looked like a ‘disagreement’ over striding. Loose horses don’t fall and all that, but that’s not always 100% the jockeys fault as a rider gives a horse something to act up against. As an example our yard has an A road you can hear but can’t see running near it, in the field they don’t bat an eyelid at it, get on them and they really wind themselves up over the road.
I really don’t think, compared to some riders Jack Doyle is that bad, I doubt he’ll be getting a call to Henderson’s or Nicholls’ yard any time soon, but compared to some you see he’s not dreadful.
I think the worst jockey error in this race was made (repeatedly) by the winning rider Andrew Glassonbury. I know his horse was staying on, but the clobbering he dished out after the final fence was reminiscent of Mike Smith on Zenyatta.
It wouldn’t be the first time Mr Glassonbury has been rather whip-happy either.
To criticise the ride from your computer is one thing, but to accuse a jump jockey of having "no bottle" from your computer is quite another. Not an accusation i’d throw around to be honest, and i don’t think you should be either.
To me, Doyle’s mount looked uncomfortable jumping for most of the race – in fact just about every horse that ran over fences at Plumpton this afternoon gave the impression it would rather be elsewhere.
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But surely the ground at Plumpton is perfect these days. They’ve gone out of their way in banning 16 runner races in order to tackle the problem of the 16th runner carving it up.
Are you suggesting this inspired track maintenance policy has failed to produce the goods?
But surely the ground at Plumpton is perfect these days. They’ve gone out of their way in banning 16 runner races in order to tackle the problem of the 16th runner carving it up.
Are you suggesting this inspired track maintenance policy has failed to produce the goods?
You jest, you jest … I’ll remember that because it made me smile.
Not that e/w at Plumpton is a regular bet for me.
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