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    I think the sheer quantity of poor quality racing has lot to do with people losing interest. It seems that rather than betting relying on racing, racing now relies on betting. The balance has shifted and the sport is suffering.

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    Doesn’t sound like you EC.

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    There is too much racing for even professionals to keep track of. I limit myself to races with a top-rated RPR of 90+, and even that is proving difficult to handle.

    Meetings like York are always to be relished, because we can forget the other meetings on those days, but days like today with a mass of decent racing spread about are proving a turn off: to me, anyway.

    I think the answer is to concentrate on one (or maybe two, if you have time) meetings per day and forget the rest until the next day or for ever.

    Yes, this is definitely what I’ll be doing in future.

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    I think the nail has been hit firmly on the head – There is simply too much racing, its at more than saturation point.

    Doesn’t matter how much you love something too much just does your head in.

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    Clash of Trinity College and Teofilo tomorrow, George Washington back on Sunday, Moyglare Stakes card as well….dull is not the word that comes to mind this weekend.

    The dull poor quality racing does not really bother me as I simply do not watch it and ignore it.

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    Quote: from Aidan on 7:57 pm on Aug. 25, 2006[br]Clash of Trinity College and Teofilo tomorrow, George Washington back on Sunday, Moyglare Stakes card as well….dull is not the word that comes to mind this weekend.

    The dull poor quality racing does not really bother me as I simply do not watch it and ignore it.

    <br>Yep, weekend card is good. Found myself a horse I believe is going to end my losing run too. Won’t say anything though, might be a jinx to do so. ;)

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    clivex
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    Perhaps you need a new anorak? ;)

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    The flat season is getting very boring !!

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    I’m sure you knackered serial Flat bettors will welcome the close of the evening season tomorrow and the first decent night’s sleep since late April.

    I’m not bored by racing; but only because – for the past few years – I’ve totally ignored everything bar Steeplechases and Flat Group/Listed, with betting restricted to the former save for the occasional fire-up when on-course at my local tracks York and Donny.

    So blank days are common, particularly in summer, but this simply means you enjoy the ‘action’ days all the more.

    Betting/following mundane racing day in day out you have little interest in other than as a betting medium just means that when a classy meeting, like the Ebor, comes around it doesn’t get the juices flowing as it should and seems ‘just another day at the coalface’.  

    Take a pull, take a break. Too much of a good thing ain’t a problem but rather too much of a bad thing viz. a constant diet of 0-70 handicaps and their brethren.

    At this time of year I find murmuring the words ‘Charlie Hall’ on head hitting pillow guarantees sweet dreams.

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    Quote: from EC on 9:40 pm on Aug. 25, 2006[br]

    I will follow some of that advice for sure.

    No more than advice born of the experience you are currently suffering EC.

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    <br>I spent 2 great days at York this week and I always relish the big days but seemingly like most people I’m struggling to keep up with the amount of racing.

    The lack of depth in most divisions on the flat is also a downside – surely there was something better to take on Alexandrova as good as she is and the Juddmonte was an awful race albeit with a very exciting finish.

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    Quote: from Drone on 9:31 pm on Aug. 25, 2006[br]At this time of year I find murmuring the words ‘Charlie Hall’ on head hitting pillow guarantees sweet dreams.<br>

    <br>I’ve been doing that since April.

    The point about too much racing, especially the low-grade fare, is spot-on; no matter how much one enjoys any particular diversion, too much of anything can only be bad for you. I’ve been following this sport for twenty-six years now, since I was eight, and I cannot recall ever having been so uninspired by the current state of the game. The way that flat racing has become so uncompetitive at the highest level, with Stoute and Fabre the only trainers capable of attracting enough of the "old blood" horses to challenge the Godolphin/Coolmore duopoly, is desperately unattractive; at least the jumps game is a bit more competitive, although there are worrying signs in that sphere, too.

    (Edited by yquem21 at 11:50 pm on Aug. 25, 2006)

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    Aidan is Trinity College a likely 2000 Guineas prospect in your opinion? I see Mr Segal has "had a few quid on it"

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    There was a thread on here earlier in the year on it and I definitely believe you have to specialise in order to make it pay. I concentrate on the better class races, flat and NH, and ignore 95% of the other racing, other than for interest sake.

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    I’d have to agree with most of the above. I think if Newbury or another big course turns to allweather racing it will be a disaster for flat racing. That would probably be the last straw for me anyway and other punters would soon wise up as to how hard it would be to find winners with so many varying surfaces and so much racing.

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    I have never been a big fan of the Flat season anyway but racing has lost a lot of its glitz for me on Derby Day. Daylight’s death brought home to me how unimportant the sport really is in the greater scheme of things and that maybe a lot of time I was spending on the dining room table in the evenings and Saturday mornings with my laptop might have been better spent with my wife and 1 year-old son (they’re out shopping now!).

    I think the difference between the Flat and NH seasons is Cheltenham, the Festival kind of keeps the whole NH season rumbing on – when there’s poor quality NH racing, the talk turns to the coming March in a way that doesn’t really happen in the Flat. As Drone said – roll on the Charlie Hall.

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    Quote: from yquem21 on 11:49 pm on Aug. 25, 2006[br]

    Quote: from Drone on 9:31 pm on Aug. 25, 2006[br]At this time of year I find murmuring the words ‘Charlie Hall’ on head hitting pillow guarantees sweet dreams.<br>

    <br>I’ve been doing that since April.

    The point about too much racing, especially the low-grade fare, is spot-on; no matter how much one enjoys any particular diversion, too much of anything can only be bad for you. I’ve been following this sport for twenty-six years now, since I was eight, and I cannot recall ever having been so uninspired by the current state of the game. The way that flat racing has become so uncompetitive at the highest level, with Stoute and Fabre the only trainers capable of attracting enough of the "old blood" horses to challenge the Godolphin/Coolmore duopoly, is desperately unattractive; at least the jumps game is a bit more competitive, although there are worrying signs in that sphere, too.

    (Edited by yquem21 at 11:50 pm on Aug. 25, 2006)<br>

    Isn’t jump racing similarly lacking in depth and dominated by Nicholls, Hobbs and  Pipe?<br>Most of the top 10 NH jocks also share the same agent!

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