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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Well Gladders, you’ve been around longer than I have, so apart from Dessie, Best Mate, Kauto and Denman what else was in GDC’s league or even better?

    #1719456
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    Err Golden Miller and Dawn run ..

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    Premature discussion. He has to win the 3rd Gold Cup first. :-)

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    What a horse.

    I still think they’ve put the 3rd Gold Cup at risk though with this busy campaign.

    I’d be worried about Gerri Colombe who’ll be going there a fresh horse. Was only 3.5L between them last year.

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    “He’s better than Denman”

    Agreed.

    Ruby: Best Mate doesn’t belong in that group, as he beat nothing of any note.

    I’d have Kauto, Dessie and Carvill’s Hill definitely ahead of Galopin, with both Burrough Hill Lad and Captain Christy roughly alongside him.

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    Is Gerri going to be there , I’d really question him going without a proper prep , GDC looking rock solid unless something goes wrong

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    “I still think they’ve put the 3rd Gold Cup at risk though with this busy campaign.”

    He thrives on his racing rather than hiding between Xmas and March so not too worried about that.

    #1719462
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    He,s not better than Denman , give me a piece of form akin to Denman destroying Kauto

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    I also agree that he’s better than Denman.

    #1719464
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    I don’t know about Dawn Run. I think he’s achieved more than she did, though she surely had the potential of becoming a multiple GC winner. Though one to compare the two of them.

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    HDLG.

    Kauto wasn’t right that day and still ran a cracker. Also, the ground had totally gone against him.

    Denman was a Great horse but Kauto was the horse of a lifetime.

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    HDLG, Kauto obviously ran below his best that day. Unless you genuinely believe he was only a short head better horse than Neptune Collonges, that is.

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    What was wrong with Kauto GM , you haven’t answered my question asking which bit of GDC form is akin to Denmans GC , sadly GDC hasn’t had a worthy competitor akin to the Nicholls horses , he’s a great horse ….but not Denman

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    #1719469
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    That GC was far superior to any of GDC s , come on guys I get you love the horse but the form isn’t there to back up what your saying

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    Great horse, great race coming into the last fence.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    “What was wrong with Kauto GM”

    The fact that he only beat Neptune Collonges a short head. Denman’s gold cup was a superb performance – as was his 2nd Hennessy- but Galopin stays just as well as him and is a bit classier.

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    HDLG,it was plain to be seen he wasn’t right and jumped with nowhere near his normal fluency.
    He also went and got beaten at Aintree a few weeks later again showing he wasn’t his usual brilliant self.

    I don’t rate Denmans Gold Cup performance anywhere near what some do due to the fact that Kauto was a shadow of himself on the day.

    He only won the Lexus by 4L to Mossbank with an 11yr old Beef or Salmon only 5L away. A prime Beef or Salmon would have beaten him around there.

    Gallopin Des Champs 23L beating of Gerri Colombe in the Savills is better than any run of Denmans.

    Again, I still think Denman was great. I just think Kauto and now Gallopin also, were/are greater.

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