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Christ on a bike…………..he’s back!!!
<br>(In gruff movie voice) ‘But this time…it’s PERSONAL!’
Mike
So if i get this right those in the minority are right and the rest are deluded, along with the so called "nutter". I don’t care what people think, i am no expert i am merely voicing my opinion on what i think i see in horse manoevering between two given often unmeasured points.
I honestly don’t understand those that go along with option 4 want to stay interested in the game, it’s a mad world. :o
Jim,
i am in the game for one reason the challenge, pitting one’s limited wit against more than what i should have too. I would like more of a clean up, why should everyone have to cheat to prosper, surely this sends out a poor message.
Ok i am deluded, i believe in fair play in all Sports. Ok i get kicked in the teeth most weeks, but if i give up trying where would i be. Just because bent is the accepted norm these days, i am not a sheep and i’ll go my own way; rightly or wrongly according to everyone else!
I partly agree UN as I like a challenge too, all I’m saying is if I believed option 4 I’d pack in betting but I’d still watch horse racing in general.
I just can’t have option 4 , sorry.
Jim,
The product could be great with a little tweak and strong leadership, but where will it come from<br>
Hey RH…
….and how many underground hypodermic darts have they found in the UK? ÂÂÂ
Remember Ile De Chypre and the Sonic Stun Gun?<br>:biggrin:
Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 2:22 pm on Mar. 30, 2007[br]<br>For example, the percentage of favourites winning horse races in California is extremely high and consistent across time. Big pools and worthwhile prize money down the grades might be the reason.<br>
Another reason may be that they race day after day at the same racetracks ( or did when I went there ) and do not have the variety of going that the UK has because of their better climate which means that the form of the races works out better.
That’s one reason, Swallow, I’ll accept that.
Then there are lower transport costs and lower stabling expenses, (as horses are based at the track). If you’re racing for $25,000 a spin, you don’t need to win too many to cover your yearly costs either, meaning deliberate sharp practice is minimised.
And if the pool is big enough, you can back your horse fairly and honestly when conditions are in your favour and still get a reasonable dividend.
Pari-mutuel wagering is a community model which nourishes and enriches all the elements of the eco-system, The racing professionals, owners, the railbirds, the TV, the tracks themselves. Everyone wins.
If you read Del Mar’s website, you will see references to community, to belonging, to being part of a wider family. You actually want to be part of it all.  I’d feel rotten instructing my jockey to give my horse an easy out the back with that kind of groove going down.
Over here…well, it’s Stalingrad with pound notes, isn’t it.
Hi all
I think the straightest races are non handicap Jumps races class 3 and above.
The most bent are class 5 and 6 flat handicaps.
byefrom<br>carlisle<br>
Quote: from carlisle on 11:15 am on April 1, 2007[br]The most bent are class 5 and 6 flat handicaps.<br>
thats quite a few races for a start, mostly where i like to bet. No wonder i moan :)
I agree with Jim on this one, if I considered option four to be true I would never consider betting on horses.
Of course there is a lot of useful information unavailable to the public, nevertheless I have found that I can win long term by watching races and studying form.
I was at Towcester last week.. When I go I always take in the horses in the parade ring. Me and a Pal really liked the look of a particular horse (Heavenly Pleasure), real stamp of a horse and looked fit as a flea.. After reading its figures of 0667PP and an opening show of 66/1 we decided against it… Placed our bets and then settled in the stand.. Next thing I know the horse is 33/1 in a matter of minutes.. and subsequently wins pretty comfortably travelling well all the way.
Now the horse had changed stables and had one run for Simon Earle since joining when pulled up..
I would love to have been on at 66/1 and obviously when it was cantering all over the leader two out me and my pal went ashen faced so I guess was this bent? Was it just a good training performance? Or has the horse just developed? Someone obviously knew something and so is that bent?.. These things happen nearly every time I go to Towcester.. and yes I have now learnt my lesson and will keep my eye on the market before betting!! :biggrin:
Aragorn
You have to work on the basis that it’s a good training performance. If not then should 33/1, or 66/1 winners be banned?
Even if I hadn’t got money on the horse I’d have taken a good deal of consolation from being able to spot a winner at a decent price. A useful and potentially profitable lesson for the future and using your presence at the meeting to find something ‘the crowd’ don’t know.
Rob
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