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- February 7, 2011 at 14:52 #339369
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Alberta’s Run who’s 33/1 price tag said it all in the King George…..
Yeah that punters are getting wiser and more decisive.
Not what you’re insinuating…
February 7, 2011 at 16:37 #339382
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Yeah it’s spreading like the plague unfortunately it missed your village
February 8, 2011 at 20:59 #339544A race i am very much excited about and am of the opinion that if the real COOLDINE turns up,its his to lose.I am thinking we haven"t seen what this horse can really do yet as he always seems to have had niggles.I have supported him at 7/1 and again at 6/1 e/w of course.
I have a feeling Cooldine’s a gonna beat’em like a red-headed stepchild! I soytenly hope so. But I’m only on it at 9/2, so it sounds like it’s well fancied.
But the old Listener scares me. And he doesn’t seem unfancied. Jumps like a stag.
February 8, 2011 at 21:30 #339547I was quite happy to back Joncol at 11/4 last Sunday morning…but now with Pride of Dulcote out, instinctively the 7/4 about Joncol tonight seems very short and deeply unattractive.
Anyone else feel the same?February 9, 2011 at 09:52 #3395763:50) 21F Hennessy Gold Cup (Grade 1) €103,500.00
( 3m – 5yo+ )[MAX 28]
NHFrm
2113- 1 China Rock (MFMorris) – (158)
535p- 2 Cooldine (WPMullins) – (155)
144-7 3 Glencove Marina (EGriffin) – (155)
-143- 4 Joncol (PNolan) – (157)
p13u- 5 Kempes (WPMullins) – (154)
2u-33 6 Let Yourself Go (AMaguire) – (147)
2f6-9 7 Made In Taipan (TMullins) – (151)
8 Madison Du Berlais (FR) (DEPipe (in GB)) –
2-62- 9 Money Trix (NGRichards (in GB)) – (158)
71-5- 10 The Listener (NMitchell (in GB)) – (156)
-p6-6 11 Trafford Lad (GB) (LJButler) – (145)February 10, 2011 at 16:48 #339756Right, since as many as TWO of you chaps’n’chapesses liked my Argento Chase preview, I’m going to have another go, this time with the undoubted highlight of this weekend’s racing, the Hennessey Gold Cup.
Here are the horses that had been entered.
China Rock – This is the sort of horse who interests me. A decent form line, having beaten Sizing Europe, finished runner up in the Punchestown three mile novices chase, and third behind Kauto Star. HOWEVER, I suspect that he’s the sort of horse who people will always use as a positive when rating other horses, largely because he’s not that interesting. I wouldn’t rule out a place for him – which will undoubtedly give whoever wins the chance to be part of the China Rock Yardstick Club – but there are other horses who I’d rather be on.
Cooldine – There are two kinds of RSA winner. The first is the sort of horse who goes on to greatness, and you can always remember their win in the race. Cooldine isn’t one of those. Since he won in 2009, he’s never entered the Winner’s Enclosure – and, besides, his RSA only produced two other decent horses in Carruthers and What A Friend. Suffice to say, Willie Mullins may be a master at this race, but I’ll look elsewhere.
Joncol – Oooh now here’s a proper horse. Here’s a horse that, you can comfortably say, know what he’s doing. He won the John Durkan, he won this last year, and El Jonco would’ve won the Punchestown Gold Cup, too, had he not been pulled out. His trainer is making noises about him needing to improve, but I still think he’s the benchmark horse here. Get on!
Kempes – Oooh now here’s ANOTHER proper horse. His win in the three miles Novice Chase at Punchestown was impressive, all the more so for it being his first time over such a long trip. The Kempster is fresh, he’s youngish, he’s not exposed, and I’m going to forgive his unseating AP last time out as one of those things that happens. If you want to get on a Mullins horse, this is – or should be – your pick. And, at best price 12s, you can even go each way on him, just for fun. I know I am. (NB Followers of my posts will know that I think this horse is capable of being something special, and I’ve backed him at rather large win and place prices on Betfair for the Gold Cup. Just so’s you know.)
Let Yourself Go – On paper he looks like an interesting horse, but actually looking at the form shows that he’s got the wrong trip. The completely wrong trip. If he were to enter a half-decent two-mile race, I’d certainly be interested, but he’s an outsider here and rightly so.
Made In Taipan – He entered the Grand National last year, falling at the third. It’s hard to see why, when he’s never won at more than 2m1f. It’s equally hard to see why he’s entered here when he’s so clearly out of his depth. Tom Mullins must, I deduce, be trying to wind up his brother. That can be the only logical explanation. Avoid.
Money Trix – At last, another horse who can, y’know, actually win over three miles. He seems to be the sort of horse who saves his best for Ireland, coming second in two Lexuses (Lexii?). I don’t think he’s good enough to win this, though, but he’s another one where you wouldn’t entirely rule out a place. I think the phrase is ‘others preferred’.
Pride Of Dulcote – I’m a lowly news reporter at a local paper, and I dream of the day when what I write makes a serious impact. It must be quite wonderful to, oooh, I dunno, close my eyes, stick a pin in a list of the longer priced horses for the Gold Cup and write about how the horse my pin’s landed on represents value, just for a laugh. Tom Segal picking this as his Gold Cup horse is the only reason why he is a stupidly short price.
Consider this (and I’ve gone on to a second paragraph, so it must be important) – he’s only finished ahead of five other horses since he’s been chasing. FIVE. That’s hardly anything. He only just beat Punchestowns (and, if we learned anything on Saturday, it’s that Punchy isn’t really very good over fences) and even over hurdles, the only notable horse he’s beaten is Little Josh. In a Maiden. Before you think of backing him at 2s ask yourself the following questions (A) would he be this short if he wasn’t trained by Paul F’n Icholls? (B) If Tom Segal said flushing your money down the toilet was ‘excellent value’, would you do it?The Listener – Another horse who does better in Ireland than he does back in Britain, and as a previous winner, and at 14s, he has to be respected. But only a bit. He’s not really the greatest of horses and, while a place isn’t out of the question, don’t you think you can do better?
Trafford Lad – The rank outsider, which is actually a little unfair. Granted, I can’t see him coming anywhere near winning this but he has actually, you know, beaten some half-decent horses. Well, OK, he’s beaten Forpadydeplasterer. Hasn’t everyone?
Vic Venturi – If I were going to sum him up briefly, I’d say ‘out of his depth’. If I’m going into more detail, I’ll say that, while he has won over three miles, he’s not exactly up to the high class that others here have achieved. Still, he’s beaten better horses than Punchestowns, which either makes him exceptional value, or means that Pride Of Dulcote’s price is taking the mick. You decide which. (Clue: It’s the latter).
Well, I’m going to be a bit of a coward and back two horses – I’m on Joncol to win at threes, and Kempes each-way at 12s. Suffice to say, were the prices the other way round, then The Kempster would get the win-only and El Jonco would be e/w.
Perhaps I’ll have a little reverse forecast. Actually, I will have a little reverse forecast on…
Kempes
JoncolAnyway, I hope you enjoyed that. Sorry if parts of it seem muddled, but I am fighting off a mild dose of plague. Let’s hope I get better soon.
What do you think?
Since AP’s at Newbury on Saturday, any idea as to who’s riding Kempes?
BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social
So don't run, just like the others always do
February 10, 2011 at 16:53 #339758Casey or Condon presumably? Both have ridden him before.
February 10, 2011 at 17:57 #339767
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duplicate
February 10, 2011 at 17:58 #339768
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Condon’s also at Newbury, (Final Approach).
February 10, 2011 at 18:26 #339772DJ Casey I believe.
February 11, 2011 at 12:04 #339854
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Cooldine out for the season, get Townend on Kempes.
February 11, 2011 at 12:20 #339861(3:15) 21F Hennessy Gold Cup (Grade 1)
€103,500.00 ( 3m – 5yo+ )1 China Rock(158) (MFMorris) – PCarberry 11,10
2 Glencove Marina(154) (EGriffin) – RMPower 11,10
3 Joncol(157) (PNolan) – APCawley 11,10
4 Kempes(154) (WPMullins) – 11,10
5 Let Yourself Go(147) (AMaguire) – SJHassett 11,10
6 Made In Taipan(151) (TMullins) – 11,10
7 Money Trix(158) (NGRichards (in GB)) – DNRussell 11,10
8 The Listener(156) (NMitchell (in GB)) – AndrewJMcNamara 11,10
9 Trafford Lad (GB)(145) (LJButler) – AELynch 11,10February 11, 2011 at 15:14 #339895David Casey rides Kempes.
Townend on Tom Mullins’ horse.
February 11, 2011 at 23:31 #339975My 2 are now The Listener and Glencove Marina.
February 12, 2011 at 11:28 #340038I know you have to overlook a lot but I am still feeling trafford Lad could produce a run one day. With defections this looks weak so a 40/1 ew small stakes bet is my angle.
February 12, 2011 at 15:51 #340147Slightly disappointed by Joncol – but that’s easily made up by Kempes winning, and winning well. Wind him up and watch him go!
Suddenly, I have the feeling that people might just come and join the ‘Kempes Can Run A Big Race In The Gold Cup’ club.
BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social
So don't run, just like the others always do
February 12, 2011 at 15:55 #340152Brilliant performance, think I might form the "Gold Cup is Coming Back to Ireland Club" fivelongdays

It is hard to equate the Irish form to the form of the English horses, but I don’t think the likes of Diamond Harry and Long Run would have beaten that opposition any easier than their fellow second season novices Pandorama and Kempes did.
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