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5 of the top 12 in the weights are by Old Vic.
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Wanna make some easy cash?
Some clever cookies have been grabbing 60 on the machine about Don’t Push It.
You can still get some 40-44 and my advice is take it.
Jonjo intends running him in the Pertempts Final at Cheltenham and then he will go straight to Aintree.
He may end up being Jonjos 2nd string to Galaxy Rock but if he runs any sort of decent race at Cheltenham he’ll be no more than ?? to lay for Aintree.
Do the sums.
I know I keep on about him but the more I look at him the happier I am with Kilcrea Castle. Connections have got to have a go off this mark.
He’s got Orchestra in him (sired Miss Orchestra to win the Midlands National and Relaxation to win the NH Chase), and Monksfield (damsire of Monty’s Pass) and Gala Performance (West Tip and Greasepaint).
I think he’s related to old Harbour Pilot (willing to stand corrected) and watching a rerun of that race behind Casey Jones he certainly wasn’t stopping and had some confirmed stayers behind him that day. Couple that with how well he jumps and I am actually quite confident.
I’m not so hot on breeding and bloodlines, but i was very taken with his debut run for Venetia and was willing to back him to beat Madison on Saturday (although I never get Venetia’s right these days). The only slight worry is the level of some of the Irish chase form, apart from the very best ones, there seems to be some average horses running well in graded races.
Start at the top of the ratings. Other than possibly notre pere do you really see any other horse running before you reach mon mome? I doubt it myself.
Well Pipe said yesterday that Madison will run in the Racing Post and the National with Cheltenham a big doubt, so that’s 2 of the top weights suggesting they will take their chance. At this point in time, it’s shaping up like last year’s race, so the "11st rule" seems less likely to apply again as it will be a fairly compacted handicap again.
I know I keep on about him but the more I look at him the happier I am with Kilcrea Castle. Connections have got to have a go off this mark.
He’s got Orchestra in him (sired Miss Orchestra to win the Midlands National and Relaxation to win the NH Chase), and Monksfield (damsire of Monty’s Pass) and Gala Performance (West Tip and Greasepaint).
I think he’s related to old Harbour Pilot (willing to stand corrected) and watching a rerun of that race behind Casey Jones he certainly wasn’t stopping and had some confirmed stayers behind him that day. Couple that with how well he jumps and I am actually quite confident.
I’m not so hot on breeding and bloodlines, but i was very taken with his debut run for Venetia and was willing to back him to beat Madison on Saturday (although I never get Venetia’s right these days). The only slight worry is the level of some of the Irish chase form, apart from the very best ones, there seems to be some average horses running well in graded races.
Kilcrea Castle is with Emma Lavelle not Venitia Williams. Agree his family is packed full of stamina. Sire Windsor Castle won the Northumberland Plate as a 3 year old. Hugh Taylor’s gone for him ante-post for the National. Does look lightly weighted on that form with Casey Jones. Also second to Schindler’s Hunt last year.
Am now on Niche Market 33/1, Hello Bud 40/1, Mon Mome 25/1 and Kilcrea castle 50/1.
Also, winner to carry more than 11 stones @ 7/4 and winner to carry 11 stones or more 11/8 (slight difference).Value Is EverythingAm on Hello Bud for the National (as well as 3 others).
Don’t see the ground as that important. His 3rd against Gallant Nuit (on soft) was equally as good as the Scottish National (imo). May be 12, but was still improving at 11 years old. Could yet show even more at 4 1/2 miles.
Not at best since Cheltenham, excuses since. Beecher too soon afterwards and Welsh National came when stable in it’s customary Christmas lull. Ran o.k. on Saturday. Do wonder whether he’d be better with Brennan aboard. Was kept fairly close to Our Vic, might’ve been best kept wider. Not that it made much difference. Hope he does not run before Aintree, and Twister is in good form at the time.Value Is EverythingAgree mostly with you ginger but the old boy definitely needs a sound surface in order to show his best, as was seen in the Scottish National and his two wins prior to that. NTD also advocates that good ground is more suitable, even though he can perform adequately on soft. Definitely on eachway for the big one as his style is perfect for the race.
Kilcrea Castle is still available at 50’s with Ladbrokes but general 33’s and 25’s elsewhere.
If you fancy it get on while you can
It’s gonna be a real battle for who’ll be leading the field.
You got Hello Bud, Black Apalachi, Our Vic, Ellerslie George and Ollie Magern all wanting to be taking up the running.
Agree mostly with you ginger but the old boy definitely needs a sound surface in order to show his best, as was seen in the Scottish National and his two wins prior to that. NTD also advocates that good ground is more suitable, even though he can perform adequately on soft. Definitely on eachway for the big one as his style is perfect for the race.
Think the just over 2 lengths 3rd to Gallant Nuit off a mark of 140, on soft ground at Cheltenham; was just as good as the win off 133 (7lb lower mark) in the Scottish National.
Had Hello Bud ran off the same 133 mark at Cheltenham, he would’ve been just as impressive as Ayr.
Value Is EverythingI know I keep on about him but the more I look at him the happier I am with Kilcrea Castle. Connections have got to have a go off this mark.
He’s got Orchestra in him (sired Miss Orchestra to win the Midlands National and Relaxation to win the NH Chase), and Monksfield (damsire of Monty’s Pass) and Gala Performance (West Tip and Greasepaint).
I think he’s related to old Harbour Pilot (willing to stand corrected) and watching a rerun of that race behind Casey Jones he certainly wasn’t stopping and had some confirmed stayers behind him that day. Couple that with how well he jumps and I am actually quite confident.
I’m not so hot on breeding and bloodlines, but i was very taken with his debut run for Venetia and was willing to back him to beat Madison on Saturday (although I never get Venetia’s right these days). The only slight worry is the level of some of the Irish chase form, apart from the very best ones, there seems to be some average horses running well in graded races.
Kilcrea Castle is with Emma Lavelle not Venitia Williams
. Agree his family is packed full of stamina. Sire Windsor Castle won the Northumberland Plate as a 3 year old. Hugh Taylor’s gone for him ante-post for the National. Does look lightly weighted on that form with Casey Jones. Also second to Schindler’s Hunt last year.
Am now on Niche Market 33/1, Hello Bud 40/1, Mon Mome 25/1 and Kilcrea castle 50/1.
Also, winner to carry more than 11 stones @ 7/4 and winner to carry 11 stones or more 11/8 (slight difference).Yes I realised yesterday that I got my female trainers mixed up. I couldn’t really argue with any of your selections either.
Why should the race they’ve run in / won make a difference BB?
Kilcrea Castle has been in Ireland until very recently, so hasn’t run in many of the trends races. Unraced at 3m + until recently, despite his pedigree. Suppose if he wins the Racing Post on Saterday, then he’ll have run in / won the right race?Obviously National winners have shown stamina and you want a stamina horse to win at Aintree. But sometimes, if you can find one with a pedigree stacked with stamina, who’s yet to race at an extreme trip. Could prove well handicapped. Not that I’m saying he will stay, just the pedigree makes the 50/1 well worth taking. Particularly with such good jumping.
Always been my opinion that "Trends" are for the lazy.
Value Is EverythingNo the RP Chase makes no difference. All recent winners have effectively placed at least in a Hennessy, a ‘National’ National, or a Becher. Or won/placed I think it’s 3 times at 28f+.
Something like that anyway. Like I said he’s given no indication he’s up to that class and this is backed up by his failure to win a race worth around 20k or more, something every winner has in the locker.
No the RP Chase makes no difference. All recent winners have effectively placed at least in a Hennessy, a ‘National’ National, or a Becher. Or won/placed I think it’s 3 times at 28f+.
Something like that anyway. Like I said he’s
given no indication he’s up to that class
and this is backed up by his failure to win a race worth around 20k or more, something every winner has in the locker.
Come on BB.
What do you call his second to both Casey Jones and Schindler’s Hunt then? That PROVES he’s up to this class. Don’t care how much he’s won, it also proves he’s well handicapped.
Again, if he wins the Racing Post Chase I suppose that 20k stat goes out of the window.
And I suppose you didn’t back Master Minded in his first Champion because. Not because you’d looked at his form (one horse against the other) but because he was a 5 year old.Do you count Monty’s Pass as winning a National before his win BB? He won the Kerry National.
Value Is EverythingI’m not a trends slave. If he wins the RP chase it would indicate a class potential, although if he’s a GN horse a win in the RP chase is unlikely. What has Pomme Tiepy done since stuffing him twice in those novice events? Bugger all.
Those 2nds were just that, defeats, suggesting again a class issue. He was getting 7lbs off Casey too.
In MM’s first CC win I think I backed Twist Magic, not sure why, had nothing to do with the 5yo stat though, age ones are always dubious, although they are quite solid for the GN.
Good luck with him, he’d be an extremely unlikely winner on profiles, but you never know, maybe a place chance when the winner has flown?
I’m not a trends slave. If he wins the RP chase it would indicate a class potential, although if he’s a GN horse a win in the RP chase is unlikely. What has Pomme Tiepy done since stuffing him twice in those novice events? Bugger all.
Those 2nds were just that, defeats, suggesting again a class issue. He was getting 7lbs off Casey too.
In MM’s first CC win I think I backed Twist Magic, not sure why, had nothing to do with the 5yo stat though, age ones are always dubious, although they are quite solid for the GN.
Good luck with him, he’d be an extremely unlikely winner on profiles, but you never know, maybe a place chance when the winner has flown?
Strange Monty’s Pass won a "National" before the big one, so is included in the Trends. Yet that win in the Kerry National was at only 3 miles.
Does Casey Jones show enough "class" for winning that graded race? If so Kilcrea Castle is weighted to beat Casey Jones in the National. Yes, did get 7lbs from Casey Jones and beaten 1 1/2 lengths. But now gets 9lbs, therefore he does have the class.
Sometimes there’s no logic to trends.
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