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    #172219
    Avatar photoAndrew Hughes
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    Really, couldn’t his advisors have seen this coming. What a great chance for easy good publicity. ‘Brown refuses banquet, eats dinner in hotel’ or somesuch – he would appear both frugal and considerate. Instead he trots along with the rest of them to tuck in.

    The reason why Blair did so well for so long was that he believed completely in the part he was playing, like the very best actors, he had total conviction in whatever the message he was delivering happened to be, there were no half-measures.

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    Nice link Cav .. I was watching that on the telly last night.

    Another bit was really funny .. George Bush goes up to Berlusconi and greets him with .. ‘Amigo, Amigo .. ‘ long lost buddy style. Bush must think the Italians speak Spanish, or they are something to do with Mexico. What a cabbage!

    If I spend £100 on food a week and throw out £50 worth, how is that going to create a food shortage. I’ve paid for it and it’s mine. You could argue that food is a finite resource but so is oil and you can use as much of that as you want so long as you can afford it.

    I think Brown’s comments are a blame the victim trick, nothing more than that and should viewed as such, $hite.

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    I realised a few weeks ago that we were throwing away an awful lot of food [ok; most of it went in the compost bin but, for the sake of economy we were throwing money away] and having had a chat with everyone in my house we do seem to have cut back on the amount of waste……forgetting about political allegiances perhaps we aught to have a rethink about how much we all waste on a regular basis……wonder what the reaction would have been if David Cameron had said it?

    Quite. In and of itself I cannot disagree with the sentiment of Brown’s statement, and both mine and my parents’ households are ones in which food wastage has always been anathema (right down to burying time-expired bread and fruit in the garden to aid its decomposition, rather than just slinging it in the bin).

    I suspect the issue for a lot of people isn’t so much what is being said, but by whom, and in particular where he said it. The only way he could have made this any more inappropriate a platform for his pronouncement would have been if he’d then stuck Sarkozy’s head in a plate of pate du fois grois and initiated the mother of all food fights.

    gc

    (Related musical interlude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0LIBCw8syA )

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    The only way he could have made this any more inappropriate a platform for his pronouncement would have been if he’d then stuck Sarkozy’s head in a plate of pate du fois grois and initiated the mother of all food fights.

    You know what – I think I would pay good money to watch that. :lol:

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    All political affiliations and opinions aside, I am just staggered that not only could one of his advisors and/or speech writers suggest this might be a good idea in the current climate

    Im not having that

    That was originally my point :wink:

    The recent "initiative" which perhaps more than any other demanstrated that they are complteley out of touch and that there is a bit of lingering anti-south/class hatred was the finger wagging at wine drinkers in the suburbs

    Those of us who sometimes like afew glasses and have been drinking for enough years to know exactly how much suits us, really needed a Hramn/Jowell (cant remeber which) telling us that it was us taht was a dnager to society rather than the good old working class salt of the earth binge drinking psychos

    I exaggerate a bit…but it was incredible.

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    Clive, I think the talk of wine binge drinking Southerners is more to do with wanting to put the duty up than any consideration for people’s welfare.

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    Not with me he hasn’t, but how about other forumites?
    Do the Scots clan on here think zanuLabour can win Glenrothes?

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    Possibly.

    There are plenty of arseholes in Fife.

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    The only way Gordon Brown can go in my estimation is up, because he cannot get any lower.

    ….. and the only thing that would make him go up in my estimation is him resigning and calling an immediate election.

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    He is a tight git,i dont like his taste in cabinet minsters.

    Cameron isnt much better. I likd vice cable, shame he still isnt leading the liberals.

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    Possibly.

    There are plenty of arseholes in Fife.

    I beg your pardon?

    #185410
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    Gordon Brown has put the world to shame, including America, and should be celebrated….
    …until the election.

    Brown is in his element with anything fiscal….anything social, and it’s every man for himself.

    ,,,intriguing jaw action.

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    Have to agree with Yorkshire about Vince Cable who should be leading the Liberals. Best of the current bunch IMO.

    Its a straight SNP/Labour battle in Scotland. If Labour win in Glenrothes it will be more due to the global credit crunch than Brown’s popularity. Independance is not looking as attractive as many originally thought for a small economy in a global market. However Salmond is very adept at wrong footing Labour and with a few weeks to go the SNP could still win.

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    Have to agree with Yorkshire about Vince Cable who should be leading the Liberals. Best of the current bunch IMO.

    Hard to argue with that – he’s been an accomplished and convincing presence in the House and on the telly for some time now.

    As for Brown, it’ll dismay plenty, but I can’t bring myself to dislike him overly. I think the moral compass is rather more intact in him than it was his egregious, perma-grinning war criminal antecedent.

    It ought not matter to anyone that he is not especially photogenic, that he does that hang-dog expression all too unwittingly, etc.; but for some reason, in a climate where increasingly – as Michael Franti once sang – "straight teeth in your mouth are more important than the words that come out of it", it seems to for some people.

    Brown, then – a dishevelled, unpolished human being, but a reasonably upstanding one in the greater scheme of things.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #185514
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    No Brown hasn’t gone up in my estimation .. he hasn’t actually done anything other than nationalise the banking sector and ignore some kiddy on international rules, that aren’t legally binding anyway.

    Kevin makes a good point about the successful small country within europe debate that the SNP have hung their hat on. It’s not looking too good for them just now.

    The problem with the other parties though, is that there isn’t any proper choice. I see the SNP are bringing the hospital cleaning back in-house. That’s not on the cards with the liberal/tory/labour coalition and yet it’s the sensible thing to do, even if it does breach EU rules.

    #185518
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    Possibly.

    There are plenty of arseholes in Fife.

    I beg your pardon?

    I knew I’d get a reaction out of you, Rob. :mrgreen:

    I only included family members in my assessment – perhaps I should have made that clear. 8)

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