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Re Mr Brown, he had a tin of paint and a couple of rolls of wallpaper under his arm the other day
Gordon Brown is a bullsh*tter, not a conviction politician. He’s just saying what he thinks people want to hear, to get votes. Then he comes out with this "big tent" rubbish so he can take one step closer to his One Party State of Brownism.
Brown a Thatcherite?
He’s a thieving beaurocratic socialist who stands against freedom, enterprise and social mobility. The sooner he’s gone the better.Why on earth do people call Gordon Brown a socialist?
I’m no expert (or socialist!) but as far as I knew, socialism meant taxation in favour of the working classes. On that principal Gordon Brown isn’t really a socialist. Especially as his cabinet was so keen to save a bunch of people who did their nut playing the private investment game (NR)
I suppose a nice early test of Brown’s conviction would be to see how he responds to the continuing crisis in Burma now that it’s out of the media spotlight again.
Gordon Brown is a bullsh*tter, not a conviction politician. He’s just saying what he thinks people want to hear, to get votes. Then he comes out with this "big tent" rubbish so he can take one step closer to his One Party State of Brownism.
Brown a Thatcherite?
He’s a thieving beaurocratic socialist who stands against freedom, enterprise and social mobility. The sooner he’s gone the better.If only all Tories were this honest about their beliefs.
Gordon Brown is a bullsh*tter, not a conviction politician. He’s just saying what he thinks people want to hear, to get votes.
.. oh that sounds familiar ..
……………….and Brown was in number 10 introducing sociolist reforms.
Can you name any, marb?
Taxing the chorus off everyone doesn’t count, if you simply use the dosh to pay for a US-initiated war, or hand it off to NHS Trust ‘managers’ to go on wank-speak courses.
And……please……if you must use it……..’socialist’………….
Socialism – great in theory. Absolute sh*te in practice.
Although I’m not even sure socialism is great in theory either. I always got on better with Milton Freidman than Karl Marx.
Brown likes to punish the hard graft of ordinary working and middle class people. I think he gets a kick of squeezing everyone dry outside the square mile.
Anyway, Marb, welcome to the team
Yes we definitely need more activists on the ground. Activism is quite fun (something the Left always seem to do quite well!) and the smallest things can make a difference.
It wasn’t me in central office though! We’re you in there joining up or something?
Socialism – great in theory. Absolute sh*te in practice.
As a matter of interest, how successful do you feel capitalism has been "in practice"?
Socialism – great in theory. Absolute sh*te in practice.
As a matter of interest, how successful do you feel capitalism has been "in practice"?
Ah yes – I can well remember the newsreels showing boatloads of Norwegians, Swedes, Aussies, Irish, Brits, Yanks, West Germans etc. trying to get into North Korea, China, Soviet Union, East Germany, Romania, Albania etc. etc.
He wiped out the pensioners like a true socialist would grassy, Hitler would have been proud of him. No seriously, he is a fecking socialist! How much is he charging us for a packet of fags Grassy? He’s a greedy **** who has literally taxed us so much he had enough in his kitty to whack out a few billion and save the Northern Rock, it could not have happend under a man that was n’t a socialist He’s now trying to retreat over iraq but ultimately knows he did’nt have the fecking balls to stand up to Tony Blair in the first place.
Grass, we are living in a socialist state mate, they’ve got about 4 times the amount of coucil workers they need up where I live, they’re creating a mini fecking economy for them. All I see is lolli pop ladies that ain’t needed, council workers pretending they’re doing something, mental health workers dossing about doing nout, and so on and so on.
As I say, socialism is fine if done purely for the people, problem is we had one man in number ten introducing centre right policies across the globe with regard to foreign policy, and one man in number 10 introducing left wing, high tax and high maintenence policies for us the British people. Rather like mixing a Rottweiler with a fecking sheepdog.
I just joined the conservatives as I want to help change the party for the future. Forget all these right wing loonies and Thatcherites, we need government less centalised with more emphiasis on the individual rather than the nanny state, which I believe that bright spark Davy cameron is trying to emphisize, if only most of the population had the brains to see what he was trying to do.
Grass, do you want us to be a one party state?, cos thats whats gonna happen if cameron goes. The conservatives won’t win power for another hundred years and it’s gonna be “New Labour” “New Labour” “New Labour”, not for me i’m afraid, not after how they’ve [expletive] the young of today.
ps, my best mate in london is so [expletive] off drugs right now it’s looking like he’s gonna be sectioned, where is the help he needs? The institutions are filling up with young kids Grassy. Feeling paranoid and weiry from smoking skunk etc. Whether its that or the one’s that are going round killing people it’s all kicked off under this government, and I will never forgive or forget that.
Marb, a true socilaist wouldn’t “wipe out the pensioners” – that’s what a capitalist would do, because they don’t contribute to the market.
A true socialist wouldn’t have funded an illegal war, in order to back-up a Fascist American adminsitration.
The Government doesn’t pay your local council employees – your council does. They are funded, in large part, by the Council Tax – a variation of the Poll Tax i.e. not means tested, which was introduced by the Conservatives. Another Tory policy that labour have re-badged, but completely failed to roll-back in any meaningful way.
We already live in a one-party state. New Labour and the Conservatives are one and the same. There is no choice, if both parties will ultimately do exactly the same thing. The have ****** young old alike – same as every other Government before them.
The help your pal needs is to stop taking drugs, and stop being a whining maggot. What he needs to realise is that only the truly cool in society, can take drugs and still be a fully-functioning and contributing member of society.
I have no time for addicts, or people who are “so ****** on drugs” they are ready to be sectioned. Young kids shouldn’t be smoking skunk anyway. They should be sniffing glue, or drinking tonic wine by the bucketload. Skunk is something you graduate into – it’s not entry-level. Perhaps if the weren’t all so crippled by peer-pressure, they wouldn’t feel the need to smoke it?
Essentially, your mate, and most like him, are ar*seholes. Sectioning is too good for the feckers.
Don’t take that wrong.
what a wonderful thought, having Ann Widdicombe back in government. armchair anarchy part for me.
We already live in a one-party state. New Labour and the Conservatives are one and the same. There is no choice, if both parties will ultimately do exactly the same thing. The have ****** young old alike – same as every other Government before them.
A little harsh on the Attlee and Wilson administrations responsible for founding the NHS and Open University; legacies so wonderful they can easily be forgiven other failings, and the sole reasons I have always tended to lean Labourwards, even to the current shower who as you rightly say are to all intents and purposes one and the same with the Tories.
Though I doubt either will get my vote at the next election.
What he needs to realise is that only the truly cool in society, can take drugs and still be a fully-functioning and contributing member of society.
‘truly tepid’ and ‘semi-functioning’ myself
..When I was at school 5 year ago we started smoking the stuff at 14……
I’d never have guessed.
Socialism – great in theory. Absolute sh*te in practice.
As a matter of interest, how successful do you feel capitalism has been "in practice"?
Obviously we have to analyse this in a proper manner.
If we take the different types of governance that people live under,
A. Capitalist (USA)
B. Communist (China)
C. Military rule (Arab countries and Burma)
D. None (Somalia)
E. Socialist (Venezuela)
If we then say that to measure happiness we will say that this is measured by how free (in control of their own destiny) people percieve themselves to be under each form of government.I’m not sure of the values for each category ..
In my most simple opinion (too tired to launch into full on debate right now): Capitalism is great and free markets go hand-in-hand with democracy and freedom.
I’m not saying that capitalism doesn’t have its faults, but what system would you rather live under Prufrock? (unless you have a new kind of system, Prufockism or something)
He’s a thieving beaurocratic socialist who stands against freedom, enterprise and social mobility. The sooner he’s gone the better.
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