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Richard Hughes was riding like he was half asleep before he flew to Singapore,he’s riding at Windsor tonight as though he hasn’t woken up from his nightmare out in the far east!
Monsieur Chevalier
should have been 3rd in the listed race! Fair play to the winner though,he will have a go at the Golden Jubilee now,back to handicaps for Evens and Odds i’m afraid.
KF: I already had both Group Therapy and Prohibit down as ones to back NTO (surely trainer has to realise Prohibit can win a 6f Group One!!).
I have backed Group Therapy at 20s for the Dash but cannot see him going there now sadly, maybe he will turn up at the Kings Stand!
Thanks for your comments
I have never known a Derby whereby we still dont know who’s actually going to run so soon to the event.Does everybody feel guilty to dare run a horse that could beat Her Majestys Carlton House? Is this years whole event becoming a Royal shindig,or will the Irish get their fingers out and confirm
Seville
as a definite runner,he’s the only horse who will give The Queens a run for his money and i’m sure connections wont feel too guilty winning!
I will just keep chipping away at the 9’s on the machine until they confirm him,he’ll go 7/2 before you can say ‘Bloody Tower’!Just got off the phone from my dear pal in County Tipperaray,Brien O Aidens his name,he said,Listen,Seville will come forward for his run at York,Listen,he was asleep most of the winter,Listen,York was meant to wake him up,Listen,it didn’t,Listen we will run Regent Street to ensure a proper end to end Gallop at Epsom,Listen,Sevilles a horse who wants an end to end gallop,Listen he never got that at York.At this point i had to butt in and say Ffs listen is
Seville
running or what? His reply was Listen,its always been the plan to run Seville in the Derby,Listen,he was bred too.I butted in again with,do you think he will win? Listen was his reply,at this point i hung up!
Reading between the lines i think team Ballydoyle know the answer to that.Part of the skill in being a successful punter is the ability to second guess a Trainers plans for a horse,we all know misinformation is a smoke screen put up by all trainers and some are better at it than others.Sir Michael Stoute is the best of the lot and was at his brilliant best the whole of last season regarding any plans for
Workforce
,fair enough he had a machine on his hands and wanted to keep him under wraps for as long as possible before unleashing him on 2 of the most prestgious races in the world and winning them.This year it would be great if Sir Michael could drop his guard,the horse has achieved star status and its blatantly obvious he was kept in training,partly because he had the physique to improve further and also to redeem himself in the King George,its still a major achievement to add to his cv,then its on to the Arc.What intrigues me though is what is the purpose of Thursdays Brigadier Gerard? Its an ideal pipeopener for a tilt at something like the POW or Hardwicke at Royal Ascot,the Coronation Cup would come too soon for this fellow,or perhaps its an ideal opportunity to gain C/D experience for a tilt at the Eclipse and the time in between would suit,it would also be an opportunity for So You Think to have a pop at him.Come on Sir Michael there’s no need for the cloak and dagger treatment this year,give us a clue!
So You Think vs Workforce vs Planteur at Sandown? One of
the
greatest races I’ll have seen over the past 10 years. Do you understand? I’d have thought he’ll basically mimic Conduit’s path.
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Part of the skill in being a successful punter is the ability to second guess a Trainers plans for a horse,we all know misinformation is a smoke screen put up by all trainers and some are better at it than others.Sir Michael Stoute is the best of the lot and was at his brilliant best the whole of last season regarding any plans for
Workforce
,fair enough he had a machine on his hands and wanted to keep him under wraps for as long as possible before unleashing him on 2 of the most prestgious races in the world and winning them.This year it would be great if Sir Michael could drop his guard,the horse has achieved star status and its blatantly obvious he was kept in training,partly because he had the physique to improve further and also to redeem himself in the King George,its still a major achievement to add to his cv,then its on to the Arc.What intrigues me though is what is the purpose of Thursdays Brigadier Gerard? Its an ideal pipeopener for a tilt at something like the POW or Hardwicke at Royal Ascot,the Coronation Cup would come too soon for this fellow,or perhaps its an ideal opportunity to gain C/D experience for a tilt at the Eclipse and the time in between would suit,it would also be an opportunity for So You Think to have a pop at him.Come on Sir Michael there’s no need for the cloak and dagger treatment this year,give us a clue!
That’s the trouble with casting around like a blind butcher – you have to guess where the axe is going to fall…..Coronation Cup – my butt. When was the last time an Arc winner seriously contested what is no more than a warm-up for the proper and prestigious gp1 contests?
SMS knows the horse is better at 12f, but if he is ever to add a top level 10f race to his CV, his best chance has to be the one that offers the stiffest European test over the trip – the Eclipse, and he’s running in the Brigadier Gerard to test the water – for the same reason he took the horse to Lingfield last season to prepare him for Epsom, and took him to Sandown to prepare him for the Arc.
Watch the maestro at work and learn, but spare us all this pony about your ‘skill’ in second guessing, ffs.Watch the maestro at work and learn, but spare us all this pony about your ‘skill’ in second guessing, ffs.
Reet me ode mucker,how the devil are you? I do miss whooping yo A*s.I know it was just pure luck that i backed
Workforce
to win the Derby at 25/1 and as for telling all and sundry he was a cert for the Arc at 16/1 was just a case of me weilding my Butchers axe wildly!
Anyway,what about your old mateFame and Glory
winning the Ascot Gold Cup,you always said he was as slow as a boat?
KF: What do you make of Strike Up The Band today? Ground has come right but worse off with Le Toreador taking into account the 3lb claim last time.
If Dandy wins today i’m sure they pick up a 7lb penalty some of which he will no doubt offset at Epsom with a 5lb claimer!! Do you believe he is going for this to ensure he gets in the race?
Second guessing Dandy, what a job LOL
Here’s a head scratcher,Dandy runs
Strike up the band
in a £5k race at Ayr today off his new mark of 88,he ran Le toreador to a sh,hd the other day off 84.Strike is entered to run in the Dash at Epsom next weekend a race worth 10 times todays prize,he is still thrown in off 88 and that mark should guarantee a run.If he wins today he will either go up another 4/5lb or incur a penalty,both would jeopardise his chances of victory next week.Dandy still has
Masta Plasta
,Crimea,Fathom Five,Falasteen and Indian Trail entered.I have my own thoughts on this,its called second guessing.I might need reet hards help here and just for once can you give me your opinion before the result,you really are the master of hindsight!
GDC,i must have been writing the above at the same time as you!
Totally agree! Cannot see his logic either unless he merely goes out for the run today!!
He does of course have the option of putting up a good 5lb claimer at Epsom and allow ‘the lad’ to ride Masta Plasta and ruin any winning chance that one has ROFL.
Don’t really know what he is doing! I guess we will have to wait and see what happens today.
Well the writing on oddschecker was on the wall well before the gates opened there for Strike up the Band!! Whether it was due to the ground who knows! If it wasn’t he has run no sort of race, maybe the Highwayman is at it again LOL
The winner was blue all morning on oddschecker and just got shorter and shorter throughout the day, nice ride from JP.
Why, oh chosen one, is Holberg 7/4 to beat this lot? Surely should be odds-on? Colossal value to be had. Dozy Hilary Needler winnings on him, £133 at 2.9-2.94.
I really like Elusive Pimpernel in the Brig G but Cumani rates Afsare very highly and his horses have been flying. £50 each at 8s.
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"Value" is a perception, Zark, and mine is obviously different to yours.
Workforce won’t be 100% fit, and 10f wouldn’t be his best distance, but as he has half a stone in hand and has improved since last year, 5/4 looks like finding money in the street compared to the 7/2 your pair.I’m not sure my 2 are value, Reet. Everything there’s roughly the right price I reckon. Perhaps I’d swap Jan and Elusive prices but otherwise everything’s about right.
I do think Holberg is value though. Blue Bajan’s rubbish and Akmal is just a dog. 7/4? You’re paying to find out if Bin Suroor’s got him right. He won very well first time out last season so I’d expect to see him win tomorrow.
"Value" is a perception, Zark, and mine is obviously different to yours.
Workforce won’t be 100% fit, and 10f wouldn’t be his best distance, but as he has half a stone in hand and has improved since last year, 5/4 looks like finding money in the street compared to the 7/2 your pair.Ginge will have something to say about that reet,being a scientist of numbers,good to see a lttle Foresight in your post there but unforunately you only find the odd 50p piece in the street these days so at 5/4 i will sit with a glass of RD and toast the return of my favourite racehorse since the one and only
Dancing Brave
.Holberg……not for me i’m afraid Zarkava,its a race i’ll just watch,good luck with your bet though.
GDC,we’ll not pretend to be surprised by Strike up the band hitting some duff notes yesterday,you need plenty rehearsal time before the grand performance! I see Betfair haveSeville
at 9.8 for the Derby,i’m going over the cliff with this one but such is my confidence in the horse,reminds me of last year!
I was up at Beverley yesterday to watch Lilys Angel and again a tardy start cost her dearly this time,make no mistake there’s not a filly in that race that will beat her again,paricularly if she steps up to 6f,i tried to recover losses on Dr Red Eye who again gets beat in a photo finish,thats the way it goes sometimes. Today i have had just the one bet at Sandown tonight in the 8,15pm,i like the look of the progressive
Fury
,i looked at the RP website as a price guide and as usual whoever prices the races up there is a country mile out with reality,he goes.- 7/4,Neebras, 5/2, Tazahum, 10/3,Fury. Reality shows Fury is the 2/1fav and Neebras is 11/4 and thats just one example.
Fury
£400 win 2/1 Bet365 8,15pm Sandown.
£3225
I will just keep chipping away at the 9’s on the machine until they confirm him,he’ll go 7/2 before you can say ‘Bloody Tower’!
Reading between the lines i think team Ballydoyle know the answer to that.
That’s the trouble with casting around like a blind butcher – you have to guess where the axe is going to fall…..Coronation Cup – my butt. When was the last time an Arc winner seriously contested what is no more than a warm-up for the proper and prestigious gp1 contests?
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