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    moehat
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    Wonder if they’ll get him back for a tilt at the National in 2022? My first thought was that at least Richard Johnson won’t have to watch someone else win a GC on him [although he was more likely to place than win]. And with Delta work I’d hate Jack to miss out on a GC winner, because I have a soft spot for the lad. Obviously, if the injury had been life threatening my first thought would have been for the horse.

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    Avatar photoKevMc
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    Dickie is 99.9% certain to be back for Cheltenham Moehat.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Gutted , I’ve made no secret that he,s one of my fav horses , is it the same tendon as before , if so he may not be back , I can’t imagine they,ll take any risks , he owe,s no one anything , from GC point of view it may effect the ace and tempo of the race , who,s likely to front run

    #1483320
    moehat
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    They said he’d be back by Christmas. Sounds as though he’s a Christian of a horse and everyone loves him to bits.

    #1483338
    Avatar photoDBRDBR
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    Such a shame!

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    Avatar photoMoyenneCorniche
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    Must say, I think Kemboy is being massively overlooked here.

    Two good runs in top grade 1’s this year, where he had valid excuses for not winning both. (fitness in the Savills and ground in the Irish GC).

    Despite his trainer saying he has it all to do in his stable guide (as if you can believe a word WPM says anyway), every single piece of form for the last 18 months gives him a very good chance here.

    His wins at Punchestown and Aintree last year are not to be underestimated imo.

    The one question mark over him is his Cheltenham form, but I can forgive him his unlucky unseat at the first last year and the JLT he ran in where the ground was ankle deep.

    Native River being out will also help him if he attempts to make all, which I think he will.

    Anything apart from heavy ground and I expect a huge run.

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    Avatar photoKevMc
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    What was wrong with the ground for him last time?

    #1483778
    Avatar photoMoyenneCorniche
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    They watered and reports were that it was horrible sticky ground.

    Even if you don’t subscribe to that theory, he still only finished a length and a half behind one of the favourites for the Gold Cup despite not jumping his best.

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    Avatar photoKevMc
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    Can’t have that myself. Left handed and jumping looks his issues, was going right the whole time and jumped bad also. Best form is all on flat tracks and personally just don’t think he looks the same horse as last year.

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    PedroCollingo
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    I’m starting to warm to Kemboy too. If the ground is in anyway good on the Friday I think he is the horse to beat. Comfortably had the best form of all the staying chasers last season. The times in all the races on the Sunday in the DRF suggest that the ground was very heavy and its well known that Kemboy does not go as well on that type of ground. So to still finish ahead of Presenting Percy and get close to Delta Work is still a good piece of form. Also worth noting that he was gambled off the boards in both his starts this year so they clearly think the world of him!

    Only concerns are the ground coming up heavy and his coarse form. 2 pretty big concerns! But at the prices he’s the one I’m with atm. Very open race!

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    FinalFurlong91
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    The main concern with kemboy is his jumping has been very scratchy this season so far

    #1483858
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I’d rather lay than back Kemboy , it’s like champ , I just can’t see not making 2 or 3 jumping mistakes , AL boum photo is a lot more straight forward horse

    #1485913
    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
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    Quiet thread, surprisingly.

    Not a race I’ll be betting in, but clearly a fascinating watch.

    #1485918
    FinalFurlong91
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    I’m on presenting percy antepost and have added delta work this morning

    Any of 5 or 6 can win, it is very hard to be confident in any of them

    #1485929
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    I’m sure of a big run from Lostintranslation. He looked so impressive in his first two runs this season and I’m willing to put a line through his King George run as something was clearly amiss. Obviously would have liked an indication on his wellbeing with another run, but they want to go in fresh. We know he gets up the hill and I’m not concerned about his stamina. Only slight negative is the stable’s other runners this week have not fired as expected.

    I like to back an outsider in this and I don’t feel like looking much further than Monalee. His second to Delta Work last time out was a great run and I reckon he’d have won had the rider not lost an iron close home. Two good efforts at the last two Festivals are also an encouraging sign and he looks a great bit of each way value.

    I don’t particularly want three in this, but yesterday had a reoccurring theme. Many finishes were fought out by Cheltenham regulars/previous course winners further exemplifying the value of having gone well here before. I don’t think any in this field tick that box like Presenting Percy. Yes he has questions to answer and needs to rediscover his best, but I don’t believe he’s been all that disgraced this season and I think everything has been done very much with this as the main priority.

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    I was quite keen on Lostintranslation before this week. Tizzard horses have been running badly at Cheltenham. Now I want to be against him at the prices. Big stamina doubts about Clan Des’ and to a slightly lesser extent Kemboy. Although if they go a slowish pace his speed could come in to things. Can understand money for Monalee, seemed to stay 3m far better than previously, doubts still remain at this trip but a chance he’ll get a soft lead. If able to dictate a slow pace (less emphasis on stamina) could surprise a few. Can’t have stable comp’ Chris’s Dream – needs to improve quite a bit. Real Steel outclassed. Ditto Elegant Escape who’s also too slow and temperament doubts now also. Presenting Percy doesn’t seem the horse of a couple of years ago. No current prices of all the above make their negatives worth overlooking. Although a combination bet involving Kemboy, Clan Des’ and Monalee might be worth a small wager just in case they go slow and speed becomes important.

    I put 32 in on Betfair when Bristol De Mai was available @ 30, and he then shortened up! Hopefully go back out. Finishing closer to Santini than that price indicates. If a few slightly under-perform then BDM could profit at a big price. Will look at the place only prices too nearer the off.

    …All this points to (with a reasonable pace) one of the big three winning. 4/5 available at a combined price and I make it 4/7.
    Al Boum Photo has the best form in the book having won last year and successful this term too. Still some jumping worries but in that respect seems to be more accurate and young enough to progress further. More than a worthy favourite.
    Santini is fragile and can make mistakes, but lightly raced and 3m2f is almost certain to bring about more improvement if able to keep up/ iron out errors.
    Delta Work finished behind Santini in last year’s RSA but has also improved quite a bit since… And with Elliott in good form is my biggest bet.

    Big three are imo capable of form well up to an average Gold Cup winner.

    Was a bit of a toss up between Santini and Al Boum Photo who was going to be my saver, at the moment wishing I’d done it the other way around but…

    Delta Work and Santini, saver on Al Boum Photo.

    Good luck everyone. :mail:

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    #1485979
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    …Race times indicate it’s quite a lot faster ground than previously. Going to bring one or two of the “non-stayers” in to it. Kemboy in particular. :wacko:

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