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    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Lostintranslation by far the best value to my eye at 16/1. His form with Defi Du Seuil, especially at the shorter trip, marks him as a top class animal, who showed his true colours in his first run beyond 3 miles when travelling all over Topofthegame (they’re the same age) to win easily at Aintree. He has huge scope at staying trips and much toughness from experience, something a few rivals lack for now.

    Barring accidents and illness (or a campaign balls up by Tizz, which is always possible) I’m pretty confident he’ll start favourite.

    #1444987
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    Agree Joe, not necessarily on your prediction on him being the market principle, but that he will take all the beating! JLT run was massive + i think they could’ve used even more of him that day and perhaps have taken DDS out of his comfort zone more. Either way, he should be Tizzard’s next star!

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    Topofthegame was given a mediocre ride at Aintree and had to recover from a greater test for a novice at Cheltenham ( longer trip on softer ground in a tougher race )

    This is just a hunch but I think Lostintranslation might have an indifferent second season.

    #1445011
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    Kemboy has an engine but if he can’t jump the Cheltenham fences then he wont be winning this. Still has it to prove round there.

    I’m on all 3 of Topopfthegame, Santini, and Lostintranslation at bigger prices at this stage. Topofthegame is better than his Aintree run and Lostintranslation was good on the day so its a wait and see with them 2. Not seen the best of Santini yet I don’t think.

    Al Boum Photo cant be ruled out apart from the stat of trying to win it back to back.

    Delta Work I can’t see turning round the RSA form unless the rumour about a bug in the yard talked about by some on here was true. May be just a rumour though.

    #1445025
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    You can’t blame the mishap this year on Kemboy

    #1445035
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    The topofthegame at aintree wasnt the same horse we saw at Cheltenham

    Not even close

    #1445038
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    Regardless of TOTG maybe being below par at Aintree, Lostintranslation was very good + had already shown a very high level of form over shorter. His hurdle form had already indicated he’d improve for the step up in trip.

    I wouldn’t even be certain TOTG will turn out the best of the RSA. He was given a lovely ride, whilst Delta Work hit the front too soon + Santini probably wasn’t 100%

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    I’ll watch that Aintree performance again, as I’ve only seen it once.

    It’ll be interesting to see his first assignment this season

    #1445062
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    Aye, fair comment on Topofthegame at Aintree. He looked to be feeling his festival effort. The big question, I think, will be how much Lostintranslation improved for the significant step up in trip. He was on the bridle throughout at Aintree bar a slap down the neck after the second last and I think he appreciated not being hassled along at 20f pace against a top notch speedster like Defi Du Seuil (bound for the Queen Mother Champion Chase next year, I hope).

    The one wee doubt I have about Lostintranslation picking up a Gold Cup is his jumping. He’s not the most confident fencer and tends to be cautious when not meeting them right. An admirable asset in most chases but caution can prove costly in a Gold Cup. Still, at 16s, a total no-brainer for me.

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    Question really with not much between santini, delta work, topofthegame and lostintranslation are they all very good which seems unlikely, or are they all average

    And wont be good enough against the likes of kemboy and maybe even presenting percy shouldn’t be forgotten if he is given a proper prep this time

    Will certainly be a very interesting season with the 3 mile chasers

    #1472473
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    There are a few that there are very good reasons to make a case for at this early stage,
    Lostintranslation for sure and it is such a shame that Topofthegame is out for the season.
    I’ll be keeping an eye, but I’m in no hurry to grab the 10s for Lostintranslation although
    I’ll be watching for him turning blue on Oddschecker. At this stage, the one that I think is
    well over priced is Bristol De Mai at 50/1 with Paddy Power. I was sitting in the Guiness
    stand last year right in line with the 2nd last, and I really thought he looked to me the likely
    winner at that point. He tired after the last, but even so he finished only 6L behind a very
    decent looking Al Boum Photo. NTD thinks he could improve again this season, and although
    Nigel is always bullish about his horses I think there could be more to come from him. He looks
    like possibly heading to the Charlie Hall, with the Betfair Chase being the main target at this
    point in the year. If he does well in either of those the 50/1 will be a distant memory.

    #1473716
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    Watching that I’d say Delta work is a bit off winning a GC , even given he,ll come in for the run his jumping isn’t good enough

    #1473862
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    Wow, what a superb jumping performance by Lostintranslation at Carlisle, we’ll done anyone who’s on him at big prices!

    #1473919
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    Lost in translation jumping like peak sprinter Sacre today ! Haha wow that was an unbelievable display of jumping.
    I really think last years novices will take over this division this year. It’s been a weak division for a while and there’s some new boys on the block. Lost in translation has made a statement.
    Also think the best of Santini is yet to come. Santini wants a slog and a test like the gold cup. 3 miles round Kempton is never going to see him to best effect.
    I thought last years RSA was a hot renewal and I know delta let the form down the other day but Santini is the horse to take from that race by a mile.
    -He missed his prep run due to vaccinations
    -He had to have a vaccination which is a negative in itself
    -He got an infected foot a week before the festival
    -during the RSA race his shoe came off on the same foot he just had an infection on!
    -he still managed a close 2nd!
    To do that and still run that well is unbelievable and the performance of the festival for me. Santini is a monster and I’m not willing to admit he’s not until after the gold cup where I think we will see his best display. I get the feeling that he won’t have a big enough stamina test prior to the gold cup.
    Lost in translation is a threat to all though by the looks of it.

    #1473920
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    100% Santini for me
    Lostintranslation jumped well but it was all at his own pace under no pressure in a four runner race. I’m not knocking him he looks in rude health and always good to see them thriving like he was today.

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    #1473923
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    For me presenting percy is the most interesting horse in the division

    But loathe to take the 20/1 until we definitely know he will be running

    Connections have no excuse this year for not giving him a proper prep with all the rain falling

    #1473947
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    Barring accidents and illness (or a campaign balls up by Tizz, which is always possible)

    At least Tizzard has other horses for many of the big races. If it heaves it down before the Betfair I hope he doesn’t run him but he probably will. Mind that pelvis of yours LiT, with those big leaps (spectacular and beautiful as they are to watch).
    Henderson more likely to treat his big horse with kid gloves and Jasolong’s point makes sense- second in the RSA in the face of those problems was a fine performance.

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