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Looks like you’ll be fully accommodated betting with Laddies (and Corals) now GT. Hope they don’t slash the odds straight away
Ah yes, in my experience Laddies have different odds to Corals more often than Paddy Power/Sportsbook. I still think of C and L as two bookmakers. Don’t think I’ll risk getting involved with the Corals side again.
Value Is EverythingDidn’t know my tips had that much influence. Both Magical and Madhmoon shortening dramatically across the oddschecker board. Think Lost Soldiar must be tipping all his bookie buddies off. LOL
Value Is EverythingI *did* trim Magical, GT. Can see your point there and think we were sitting too big. I don’t think we’re up with the Irish Derby yet, waiting for a few more quotes about likely runners.
I’m very much against the modern climate in online bookmaking where customers who are winning from the wisdom of their own opinions and research are losing accounts just because they’re winning. You’re not an arber or any kind of abuser and you’re generally betting into strong markets in good races – you’re just ahead of the market with your perceptions more often than not. I think this kind of business is important to retain and use as a mark. We have massive individual workloads with the day-to-day racing and there is pressure to be ‘up’ with as many ante-post races as possible. I think if a market needs attention and you can get a cheap prompter from a good judge, you might as well take it.
The thing is: a good chunk of the firms on the right-hand side of Oddschecker are ‘middle market’ bots. Say Ladbrokes, Coral and Sportingbet shorten one: then you know Redzone, Sportpesa, 10bet, Bethard and Moplay will all insta-cut because there is no human controlling their prices. They’re just cutting to the new average price across the board. Sometimes it can just take one firm to make a price change and you get the impression of a ‘sea of blue’ across the board because the bot firms are following on. Then say a bet365, WH or Paddys trader happens to see a bet or looks at Oddschecker – they’ll see a massive wave of blue and probably be spooked into falling in line as well. You can see how ridiculous things are getting and how ‘moves’ can snowball out of nothing sometimes.
Interesting LS3 thanks for that info. Arizona a pretty good example of the bots at work in the Coventry!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!LS – Laddies were allowing me a bet of 36 pence when I went online to place a bet last week. To be fair they did up it to 50 pence when I called up to complain
Highly frustrating when it’s over a year since I last used the account, for the very same reason.I’m no trader or massive profit maker (I wish!). I was told it’s a trading decision but it’s impossible to get past the first line of customer services to get any clarity on what is driving the decision.
I used to work for both Corals and Ladbrokes, years ago, their treatment towards loyal customers is embarrassing. So many dedicated, experienced staff left the industry only to be replaced by people with poor people skills and no passion for the game. No wonder most bookie shops are empty most of the day apart from a few FOBT addicts
Have reduced stakes slightly due to ground.
3:35 Haydock:
55 points @ 5/1 (L) Mankib (min 9/2)Value Is EverythingAt what price GT would you suggest Sir Dancealot becomes backable even with the ground? His run at Ascot wasn’t the worst ever on soft over 6!?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Have reduced stakes slightly due to ground.
3:35 Haydock:
55 points @ 5/1 (L) Mankib (min 9/2)
25 points @ 14/1 (betfair) Mitchum Swagger (min 12/1)Value Is EverythingGround at Ascot was on the soft side, Jack; but tomorrow’s surface is almost certain to be a lot softer than that… tbh Good-Soft wouldn’t worry me at all, but soft or heavy is imo a massive negative and I wouldn’t even take 10/1 Sir Dancealot until I can see race times of early races tomorrow. I don’t hold out much hope though. This evening’s racing now heavy and looks heavy.
Value Is EverythingHave reduced stakes slightly due to ground.
3:35 Haydock:
55 points @ 5/1 (L) Mankib (min 9/2)
25 points @ 14/1 (betfair) Mitchum Swagger (min 12/1)
24 points @ 10/1 (B365) Snazzy Jazzy (min 9/1)Value Is EverythingHave reduced stakes slightly due to ground.
3:35 Haydock:
55 points @ 5/1 (L) Mankib (min 9/2)
25 points @ 14/1 (betfair) Mitchum Swagger (min 12/1)
24 points @ 10/1 (B365) Snazzy Jazzy (min 9/1)
saver:
38 points @ 11/4 (B365) Safe Voyage (min 11/4)Value Is Everything3:00 Haydock:
13 points each way @ 25/1 (B365) Dave Dexter (min 20/1)Value Is Everything
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