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- November 19, 2024 at 13:42 #1713288
Four jockeys banned ten days each (that’s quite lenient, isn’t it?)
Why getting only 10 days when you decide to drop your hands from the off?
Here is the race in full:
November 19, 2024 at 13:52 #1713290The crazy thing is the winner was never put under pressure to gain such an advantage so was never going to tie up and just cantered home.
The more I know the less I understand.
November 19, 2024 at 13:56 #1713291Yes, RTB and you could also see that the 2nd to 5th placed jockeys didn’t seem to bother much about their placings.
November 19, 2024 at 14:03 #1713293Well done to the winning jockey, taking the initiative in a race where it was obvious after a furlong that it was going to be run at a crawl.
I suppose they were a bunch of inexperienced apprentices. But even allowing for that, how could they allow a horse to get so far clear? The jockey in the purple and white diamonds was still sitting there and not moving when the winner was at least 40 lengths clear and heading to the home turn.

It was also a hands and heels race, so it is not as if they could give their horses a crack or two behind the saddle when they were so far behind.
I assume they all have jockey coaches, so I would hope they will watch the video and learn.
November 19, 2024 at 14:03 #1713294Three of those four banned apprentices have never ridden a winner, two had never ridden in a 2M race, and the other two had only ridden one previous 2M race.
So they had no experience with which to judge the pace. If I’d watched that live, I’d have assumed the runaway leader would be down to a walk by the finish, so I wouldn’t rush to criticise. The length of ban won’t make any difference to them, as they don’t get many rides anyway.
November 19, 2024 at 14:12 #1713296I was just about to post about how three of the jockeys had never ridden a winner. I hadn’t heard of any of them.
It doesn’t make it right but it does make it more understandable than if experienced jockeys had made the same mistake.
Punters are entitled to a run for their money but anyone betting in that sort of race is taking a chance.
November 19, 2024 at 14:49 #1713297Along with jockeys having no or little experience of a 2 mile race – difficult to judge pace… None of the runners had made the running on any of their last 5 starts. Only one – Grand Duchess Olga – had tracked the pace and all the others had either raced in mid-div or been held up. So I can imagine all bar one trainer giving jockeys riding instructions of “hold the horse up and don’t hit the front until late” or “get some cover”. Therefore had they gone out on their own chasing the leader they’d probably have been going against riding orders.
Value Is EverythingNovember 19, 2024 at 15:33 #1713299When a 28/1 complete outsider wins this race, and other winners on the card were priced at 100/1 and 125/1, perhaps it was an afternoon when punters should have kept their money in their pockets. I am glad I did!
November 19, 2024 at 15:42 #1713301It’s going back a bit, but I once had a runner (Salute) in a similar race over 2M at Kempton in 2007, although the winner in that case was never as far clear as the one today. He was a 3yo called Junior, then trained by Brian Meehan, and this is the form book comment:
“Made all, 6 lengths clear after 3f, kicked on 4f out, in no danger after, driven out final furlong”
When Salute came back in after finishing 4th, Steve Drowne told us that he’d been trapped on the inside rail going down the far side and that he’d been shouting at the other jockeys to chase after the leader. But none of them wanted to be the first to move – as Steve explained it, in a race like that, jockeys assume that the first one to chase is just throwing away his chance and giving the rest a lead up to the front runner.
Junior didn’t run again that year and was sent to Pipe for a hurdling campaign. His next flat run came in the Ascot Stakes in 2010 and the formbook comment reads:
“Made all, clear from 12f out, ridden and stayed on well final 3f, unchallenged”!!
November 19, 2024 at 16:10 #1713303Real turd of a card at Lingfield today, Southwell looked a lot better but weather got in the way of that all weather course
November 19, 2024 at 23:42 #1713341What does banning them do? It’s not the solution – mistakes happen in lots of sports, but officials don’t penalise them for it. Imagine giving an F1 driver a ban for going off track, and losing a race because of the mistake. It wouldn’t happen…….the sport is in a time warp.
Today’s race was like a cycle race – and the breakaway won……none of the other jockeys wanted to make the move to reel the winner in – these things happen.
November 20, 2024 at 00:51 #1713342Words fail me after watching that, speechless
November 20, 2024 at 19:33 #1713400Crazy scenes what where they thinking

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