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- July 20, 2010 at 21:19 #307637
List? Completely lost me this time.
July 20, 2010 at 21:54 #307649You don’t think an Oscar Shindler will be produced at some point Cormack?
..I remember that race and they called me a pocket talker for saying that not so super sub was disgracing the silks…
July 20, 2010 at 22:06 #307652If you search the depths of your
macmemory you will come acrossthe list
This is the old list and not the list we
are awaiting.It’s not rocket science or as difficult to
percieve as Any Given Moments strange post off
contraction from 9/4 to 2/1, or the mysteries
surrounding King Tut and the curses that followed his tomb,
or the riddle of why the Parthenon marbles feel at home near a 68 bus.No Rampante holds the secret of
the list
and the common people who’ve suffered banks disease
for nearly three years want it.July 20, 2010 at 22:08 #307653Conclusions so far
Racing post are shite at compiling a tissue.
Bookies are thieves and shorten everything up at the front of the market regardless.
Punters, in general, dont like missing winners or losers and take every opportunity to claim they have been robbed by cheats.
July 21, 2010 at 09:05 #307688Ah,
that
list.
The one with the gruesome twosome and the Always Psychic mob featuring so prominently.
Did someone mention Pegasus Pills?
July 21, 2010 at 09:36 #307693Yesterday’s Stats –
All races
– 13 out of 17 races won by shorteners (sp shorter than opening)
Favourites –
Shorteners – 7 out of 15 won – profit on turnover for blind backers of 35.36% – profit 5.305pts at 1 pt level stake at sp – that’s three days out of three profit backing the shortening up favs blind
Drifters – 2 out of 2 WON
15/8 and 15/8 100% loss for layersNote – Kempton on the sand – all 6 races won by shorteners, 4 out of 6 shortening favourites WON (ev, 11/10, 13/8, 7/4).
July 21, 2010 at 10:55 #307700Using Maxilon5’s "going on since October last year" mentioned on page 1 as the day the value died I’ve dug out these stats for UK NH Clear Favs (no jt. co.) prior to October 1st and since. I don’t have stats for the Flat
8/6/95 – 30/9/09 47016 races
SR 36.2%
LSL 8.13%
LLR 421/10/09 – yesterday 2864 races
SR 36.38%
LSL 3.33%
LLR 14
(Computer Timeform)
Comparing 14 years of data with that of 9 months should not tempt one into dogmatic conclusions but superficially it would appear market SP efficiency has increased quite dramatically: SR similar, LSL less than half what it was
leave it to me Candice Marie
July 21, 2010 at 11:16 #307712Yesterday’s Stats –
All races
– 13 out of 17 races won by shorteners (sp shorter than opening)
Favourites –
Shorteners – 7 out of 15 won – profit on turnover for blind backers of 35.36% – profit 5.305pts at 1 pt level stake at sp – that’s three days out of three profit backing the shortening up favs blind
Drifters – 2 out of 2 WON
15/8 and 15/8 100% loss for layersNote – Kempton on the sand – all 6 races won by shorteners, 4 out of 6 shortening favourites WON (ev, 11/10, 13/8, 7/4).
When you look at drifting favs there is a survival bias as you are only looking at returned favs.
Those horses that opened fav, or were lunchtime fav, and were usurped as fav are missed.
These horses yesterday were (excluding those disputing favouritsm pre-live show, where a clear fav could not be named):
Mr Money Maker
Sirjosh
Apache Kid
Savaranola
Walamo
QudwahNot a single one placed. Most couldn’t be sighted with a radar!
July 21, 2010 at 14:56 #307749Be interesting to see how George Baker goes on tonight?
That’s George Baker the horse, trained by the trainer George Baker and ridden by the jockey George Baker. :lol
Interesting profile to say the least!
Three runs over the minimum distance…the 3rd and final one being a 7/22 in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot beaten 6 lengths.
Then a beaten 8/13 favourite beaten over 20 lengths in a 7f maiden. Following that was another maiden appearance dropping to 6f but weakening inside final furlong to finish 3rd.
Then to finish off a strange campaign…3 runs in claimers with a 5lb claimer up… over 7f, 6f, then 8f and failure to trouble the judge in all 3.
Comes back out tonight back over the minimum trip in a class 5 off a mark of 65…already backed from as big as 8’s to a best price 4/1!
As I say, be interesting to see how the horse goes….
July 21, 2010 at 16:07 #307760Is the Fat Controller pulling the strings at Moreton Morrell?
July 21, 2010 at 16:11 #307761Be interesting to see how George Baker goes on tonight?
That’s George Baker the horse, trained by the trainer George Baker and ridden by the jockey George Baker. :lol
Interesting profile to say the least!
Three runs over the minimum distance…the 3rd and final one being a 7/22 in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot beaten 6 lengths.
Then a beaten 8/13 favourite beaten over 20 lengths in a 7f maiden. Following that was another maiden appearance dropping to 6f but weakening inside final furlong to finish 3rd.
Then to finish off a strange campaign…3 runs in claimers with a 5lb claimer up… over 7f, 6f, then 8f and failure to trouble the judge in all 3.
Comes back out tonight back over the minimum trip in a class 5 off a mark of 65…already backed from as big as 8’s to a best price 4/1!
As I say, be interesting to see how the horse goes….
Believe it or not, but it’s also part owned by a guy called…. well, do I even need to tell you

One race – four George Bakers
July 21, 2010 at 16:12 #307762If my memory’s correct wasn’t this horse owned by ‘arry FindLAY?
July 21, 2010 at 16:21 #307765If my memory’s correct wasn’t this horse owned by ‘arry FindLAY?
It certainly was Ken, alarm bells ringing already… though we could all lump on assuming the horse has won already

Once again, George Baker (the trainer that is) denies all knowledge of the gamble (just been interviewed on ATR).
July 21, 2010 at 16:25 #307767
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I watched the Baker pre race interview. He did a pretty good job of trying to steer punters onto the Prescott trained winner.
July 22, 2010 at 15:28 #307930Not a great day for the conspiracy theorists yesterday –
15 of the 24 race winners I have data for were on the DRIFT (opening price Vs SP on S.Life results comments)
Favourites
–
Drifting favs won 2 out of 5 for 45% loss on turnover
Shortening favs win only 4 from 21 for 48% loss on turnover
(includes joint favs)
I appreciate there is a survival bias Glenn but the favs I’ve looked at are an indication of how well those horses supported at the head of the market fare.
I’m busy for the next couple of weeks so that’ll have to be it for a while.
July 22, 2010 at 21:49 #308002The last time Mr Byrne had a runner in a Folkestone handicap, at least there was this to interest the racegoers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE
Tonight they didn’t get much of a race to form an opinion on and watch. You get away with nothing claims Curley. I say The Rabble don’t give a Sheila Toss any more.
July 23, 2010 at 19:37 #308115WANTED: Job in call centre where whoever initiated the punt on Braveheart’s Spirt is Needed is a client.
Will work for free.
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