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  • #307637
    Avatar photocormack15
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    List? Completely lost me this time.

    #307649
    Glenn
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    You don’t think an Oscar Shindler will be produced at some point Cormack?

    ..I remember that race and they called me a pocket talker for saying that not so super sub was disgracing the silks…

    #307652
    Avatar photogamble
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    If you search the depths of your
    macmemory you will come across

    the list

    This is the old list and not the list we
    are awaiting.

    It’s not rocket science or as difficult to
    percieve as Any Given Moments strange post off
    contraction from 9/4 to 2/1, or the mysteries
    surrounding King Tut and the curses that followed his tomb,
    or the riddle of why the Parthenon marbles feel at home near a 68 bus.

    No Rampante holds the secret of

    the list

    and the common people who’ve suffered banks disease
    for nearly three years want it.

    #307653
    Avatar photoExpect To Win
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    Conclusions so far

    Racing post are shite at compiling a tissue.

    Bookies are thieves and shorten everything up at the front of the market regardless.

    Punters, in general, dont like missing winners or losers and take every opportunity to claim they have been robbed by cheats.

    #307688
    Glenn
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    Ah,

    that

    list.

    The one with the gruesome twosome and the Always Psychic mob featuring so prominently.

    Did someone mention Pegasus Pills?

    #307693
    Avatar photocormack15
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    Yesterday’s Stats –

    All races

    – 13 out of 17 races won by shorteners (sp shorter than opening)

    Favourites –

    Shorteners – 7 out of 15 won – profit on turnover for blind backers of 35.36% – profit 5.305pts at 1 pt level stake at sp – that’s three days out of three profit backing the shortening up favs blind

    Drifters – 2 out of 2 WON :shock: 15/8 and 15/8 100% loss for layers

    Note – Kempton on the sand – all 6 races won by shorteners, 4 out of 6 shortening favourites WON (ev, 11/10, 13/8, 7/4).

    #307700
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Using Maxilon5’s "going on since October last year" mentioned on page 1 as the day the value died I’ve dug out these stats for UK NH Clear Favs (no jt. co.) prior to October 1st and since. I don’t have stats for the Flat

    8/6/95 – 30/9/09 47016 races

    SR 36.2%
    LSL 8.13%
    LLR 42

    1/10/09 – yesterday 2864 races

    SR 36.38%

    LSL 3.33%

    LLR 14

    (Computer Timeform)

    Comparing 14 years of data with that of 9 months should not tempt one into dogmatic conclusions but superficially it would appear market SP efficiency has increased quite dramatically: SR similar, LSL less than half what it was

    leave it to me Candice Marie

    #307712
    Glenn
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    Yesterday’s Stats –

    All races

    – 13 out of 17 races won by shorteners (sp shorter than opening)

    Favourites –

    Shorteners – 7 out of 15 won – profit on turnover for blind backers of 35.36% – profit 5.305pts at 1 pt level stake at sp – that’s three days out of three profit backing the shortening up favs blind

    Drifters – 2 out of 2 WON :shock: 15/8 and 15/8 100% loss for layers

    Note – Kempton on the sand – all 6 races won by shorteners, 4 out of 6 shortening favourites WON (ev, 11/10, 13/8, 7/4).

    When you look at drifting favs there is a survival bias as you are only looking at returned favs.

    Those horses that opened fav, or were lunchtime fav, and were usurped as fav are missed.

    These horses yesterday were (excluding those disputing favouritsm pre-live show, where a clear fav could not be named):

    Mr Money Maker
    Sirjosh
    Apache Kid
    Savaranola
    Walamo
    Qudwah

    Not a single one placed. Most couldn’t be sighted with a radar!

    #307749
    Avatar photoZamorston
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    Be interesting to see how George Baker goes on tonight?

    That’s George Baker the horse, trained by the trainer George Baker and ridden by the jockey George Baker. :lol

    Interesting profile to say the least!

    Three runs over the minimum distance…the 3rd and final one being a 7/22 in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot beaten 6 lengths.

    Then a beaten 8/13 favourite beaten over 20 lengths in a 7f maiden. Following that was another maiden appearance dropping to 6f but weakening inside final furlong to finish 3rd.

    Then to finish off a strange campaign…3 runs in claimers with a 5lb claimer up… over 7f, 6f, then 8f and failure to trouble the judge in all 3.

    Comes back out tonight back over the minimum trip in a class 5 off a mark of 65…already backed from as big as 8’s to a best price 4/1!

    As I say, be interesting to see how the horse goes….

    #307760
    Avatar photoSeven Towers
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    Is the Fat Controller pulling the strings at Moreton Morrell?

    #307761
    Avatar photoOneEye
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    Be interesting to see how George Baker goes on tonight?

    That’s George Baker the horse, trained by the trainer George Baker and ridden by the jockey George Baker. :lol

    Interesting profile to say the least!

    Three runs over the minimum distance…the 3rd and final one being a 7/22 in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot beaten 6 lengths.

    Then a beaten 8/13 favourite beaten over 20 lengths in a 7f maiden. Following that was another maiden appearance dropping to 6f but weakening inside final furlong to finish 3rd.

    Then to finish off a strange campaign…3 runs in claimers with a 5lb claimer up… over 7f, 6f, then 8f and failure to trouble the judge in all 3.

    Comes back out tonight back over the minimum trip in a class 5 off a mark of 65…already backed from as big as 8’s to a best price 4/1!

    As I say, be interesting to see how the horse goes….

    Believe it or not, but it’s also part owned by a guy called…. well, do I even need to tell you :D

    One race – four George Bakers :shock:

    #307762
    conundrum
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    If my memory’s correct wasn’t this horse owned by ‘arry FindLAY?

    #307765
    Avatar photoOneEye
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    If my memory’s correct wasn’t this horse owned by ‘arry FindLAY?

    It certainly was Ken, alarm bells ringing already… though we could all lump on assuming the horse has won already :D

    Once again, George Baker (the trainer that is) denies all knowledge of the gamble (just been interviewed on ATR).

    #307767
    Anonymous
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    I watched the Baker pre race interview. He did a pretty good job of trying to steer punters onto the Prescott trained winner. :lol:

    #307930
    Avatar photocormack15
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    Not a great day for the conspiracy theorists yesterday –

    15 of the 24 race winners I have data for were on the DRIFT (opening price Vs SP on S.Life results comments)

    Favourites

    Drifting favs won 2 out of 5 for 45% loss on turnover

    Shortening favs win only 4 from 21 for 48% loss on turnover

    (includes joint favs)

    I appreciate there is a survival bias Glenn but the favs I’ve looked at are an indication of how well those horses supported at the head of the market fare.

    I’m busy for the next couple of weeks so that’ll have to be it for a while.

    #308002
    Glenn
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    The last time Mr Byrne had a runner in a Folkestone handicap, at least there was this to interest the racegoers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE

    Tonight they didn’t get much of a race to form an opinion on and watch. You get away with nothing claims Curley. I say The Rabble don’t give a Sheila Toss any more.

    #308115
    Glenn
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    • Total Posts 2003

    WANTED: Job in call centre where whoever initiated the punt on Braveheart’s Spirt is Needed is a client.

    Will work for free.

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