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  • #400416
    Avatar photoMiss Woodford
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    I hope that the huge majority of posters on here who love their racing will join me in crossing their fingers that this magnificent, legendary racehorse makes a full recovery and we see him back on the racecourse for Royal Ascot.

    We can all agree on this.

    #400422
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    This thread should be given an award for talking shyte.

    Frankel hasn’t trained on? They are making excuses so they can retire to stud? Why a second scan? It was rockets that hit the twin towers not planes… FFS grow up

    "He’s getting the best care he can get at the moment and he’ll go into the Equine Hospital in Newmarket and have a scan on a big machine which will tell us definitely if there is any damage"

    "The initial scan, which is done on portable scan, showed no damage and no hole, which is positive, which led us to believe and hope it was superficial or just a minor injury. But obviously, with a horse of this nature, or any horse actually, we have to be incredibly careful, especially with injuries of this type in this area.

    "He’s getting the best care he can get at the moment and he’ll go into the Equine Hospital in Newmarket and have a scan on a big machine which will tell us definitely if there is any damage.

    "There is no point in doing it earlier as there is still some haemorrhaging, which has caused the filling in the leg and that needs to dissipate. That will probably take about a week to clear and after the scan will give us good pictures and tell us if there is any damage at all.

    "Our initial reaction was that it was superficial and at the moment, we are still in the unknown. We are all very hopeful for a positive outcome and we’ll have to see how that pans out. There will be nothing definitive until the end of the (next) week.

    "I think it would be too early to rule him out of Royal Ascot. I would say Newbury would be very unlikely whatever. The horse will tell us, but he’s going to miss a week and if he was right and recovered, I don’t think Henry would want to rush him into Newbury, or even Royal Ascot if needs be.

    "If he were right and we were happy with him, he would get into his normal programme and we would run him when the best time came."

    TG was kind enough to tell the racing public exactly what’s going on if any you bozo’s want to call him a liar or come up with some stupid conspiracy theory go ahead and then go back to "knit 1- Purl 1" where you belong

    #400424
    Avatar photoJollyp
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    Bad news all round Id say , lets hope we see him again

    RFC and those Quipco chaps will be crossing everything as well

    lets face it if he retires , a lot of promo material will be washed away and in the short term racing will be the loser

    One good thing though , he is in the care of the best trainer in the world , so no stone will be left unturned

    Ricky

    The best trainers dont use pacemakers and they can get a top class middle distance horse to sprint.

    #400435
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    It’s all precautionary for the good of the horse.
    So what, if he doesn’t make the Lockinge, nobody wants to see him break down on the racecourse.
    Frankel was the best 2,000 Guineas winner I have ever seen at Newmarket last year, just to be there was an honour.
    Time is on his side with the flat season just kicking off, we just have to be patient and hope all is well.

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #400439
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    Cormack,I read carefully my post to find out where I have misled you or anyone else.I opened another thread which nobody responded to.I suggested there that if he kicked himself while galloping then he must not have been working with bandages on his legs.He is a very valuable horse with a big looping stride. The type most likely to knock into himself at speed.Bandages are commonly used here to avoid such mishaps.The point I also made here is that there is no such thing as a minor leg injury just as there is no such thing as minor surgery.A horse gets a leg injury and everyone starts to discount the severity of it. A week later and the horse is being retired,or is given a year off.So until the horse returns to training I suspend my belief in what the trainer says.Will a second scan tell more than the first one?If not will the horse be returned to training and watched to see how he does in light work before advancing to heavy work?If he is still hemmoraging since the first appearance of the knock then it must have been more serious than first acknowledged.I for one have suspended judgement while fearing the worst.An attitude I have developed over time listening to trainers and spindoctors.I have no desire to see Frankel return to training until everyone is sure it was just a "minor" rap during a routine gallop.In fact my attitude is that most horses are returned to training too soon.If Frankel was put away until next spring and reintroduced then to light training I would have no gripe with that decision.But again I would only believe that that was the solution when I saw it happening.

    #400441
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    Some cynical gum-bumping going on here…..in the same thread by the same poster we read ‘any excuse to retire Frankel to stud’ and then later : ‘we all agree that we hope he makes a full recovery’….

    Maybe there is nothing much to actually comment on in this story apart from the fact that Frankel is injured and we have to wait and see if he recovers well enough to race again…..everything else is pointless speculation or just an opportunity to make gassy and guessy remarks about the horse or his excellent connections.Pointless.Wait for news.

    #400445
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    Goodness me he’s injured and might be retired. Ha haa ha so predictable. Optimum $ £ & € in keeping the mystique at its most grandest and greatest!!!!!

    Not fit to shine the caviars bootstraps. Cream puff champion.

    #400457
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    Goodness me he’s injured and might be retired. Ha haa ha so predictable. Optimum $ £ & € in keeping the mystique at its most grandest and greatest!!!!!

    Not fit to shine the caviars bootstraps. Cream puff champion.

    AIC, that’s just plain rude to the horse and his connections. :x

    #400460
    Jonibake
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    Goodness me he’s injured and might be retired. Ha haa ha so predictable. Optimum $ £ & € in keeping the mystique at its most grandest and greatest!!!!!

    Not fit to shine the caviars bootstraps. Cream puff champion.

    Knob – leave

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #400471
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    Had similar news emanated from Aidan O’Brien’s or Jim Bolger’s stable about one of their star performers, then I too would cast a cynical eye.

    However, this is Sir Henry Cecil we are taking about here. I believe every word of Teddy Grimthorpe’s statement and just pray that Frankel will be ready to run at Royal Ascot – hopefully in a showdown with that overweight, over-hyped, Aussie mare. :wink:

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    #400476
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    After Teddy Grimthorpe’s spin on Workforce’s participation in the Breeder’s Cup I do not think he is any more or less trustworthy than any other racing manager.
    Whatever the fate of the horse, his welfare is the primary concern and should he never race again he will not owe anyone anything.

    #400505
    Avatar photoLone Wolf
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    If you think how poweful this and all horses are, and how fast they go and how hard they hit the ground, you wouldn’t even want to run him if he had the slightest of injuries. The smallest of nicks can esculate into something more serious i’d imagine. You could also look to Workforce amongst other examples of how that operation aren’t afraid to let them run on and take their chances at 4. There horses aren’t known for sudden retirements. Furthermore, i think the horse will be fine and run, and it’s maybe being portrayed by others as a more serious issue due to Cecil being so apprenhensive to the extent that he wouldn’t want any positive news printed until the horse is 100% ok.

    #400526
    andyod
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    Hope you are right, maybe will wrap the legs for future gallops.Let’s call it a small setback for now.

    #400539
    Avatar photoBlessed Martin
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    Has anyone received any more news on Frankel. I got a text from my best friend earlier today that Frankel will not see a racecourse again. Not sure where my mate got his info from but he like me is an avid Sir HRAC follower.

    Hope it’s not true :(

    #400565
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    Claire Balding just said Frankel is not going to race again, very sad news if true.

    #400634
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    No surprise, the injury announcement was just the warm-up to the retirement announcement.

    Another STS, good younger horse but legend status not sought or confirmed due to the lure of the stud money.

    #400661
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    Makes no sense. Why waste a year of breeding?

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