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- February 9, 2009 at 03:04 #209077
I pretty sure when I used to try and give up a few years ago it was either Patches or Gum also Max. But knowdays you can take both. My missus got both prescribed for her by the doctors.
I think the problems with sleeping when wearing a patch pass within a few days but tbh it was enough for me to give up on the patches. In the end I did it the Allen Carr way and it was amazing…half way thru the book just stopped. Still can’t believe it thb 3 years on.
February 9, 2009 at 03:14 #209081Oh; I love the smell of old Holborn and there’s nothing more wonderfully ritualistic than rolling a ciggy…and as for liquorish papers…..
February 9, 2009 at 12:53 #209127Back in 2004, Lollipops worked for four months, Drone. It’s the Kojak method.
The psychology of it is obvious, but it wasn’t anywhere near enough to withstand significant trauma…or the pub, both of which hit one night and that was that.You don’t come across many snuff users nowadays, sah! I’ll bet it’s a high impact concentrational aid. When you think about it, it could be a useful aid in this game – girding the loins and all that.
Pompete, that Allen Carr book has a good reputation. I ought to add that to the "how to" list. I know several people who’ve quit – and stayed quit – through that book, You know the worst thing? Meeting those smokers who went back after ten years. That’s scary. That’s now my biggest fear (related to stopping smoking).
February 9, 2009 at 14:19 #209136You don’t come across many snuff users nowadays,
Sales are up circa 10% since the smoking ban. Despite the upper-class association it was to the workers in heavy industry – mining in particular – that most of the sales went during the 20th century. I believe the NCB supplied the ‘medicated’ (menthol/eucalyptus/camphor) types to the miners at cost. Runny noses helped expel the coal dust and of course nosmo king down t’pit.
February 9, 2009 at 14:56 #209140The govt raise incredible levels of revenue via tobacco levies, therefore they wont ban it. However they have to keep upping the anti in terms of health warnings the more that evidence proves smoking causes various life threatening illnesses. They have to do the latter I reckon because they are scared that if they are not seen to have made it the law to put clear warnings on these products then one day they may be prosecuted for negligence (ie. allowing these products to be legal) and if they lose the flood gates of lawsuits against them would open.
So its quite simple really – as long as they can get away with keeping them legal they will. I would imagine if there is ever a stage reached where the revenues raised from tobacco sales are outwieghed by the cost of treating smoking related illnesses on the NHS then the govt may reconsider. Of course then they run the risk of hoardes of pro-smokers descending on Parliament in a violent revolutionary mob. Which I presume would happen because most pro-smokers I have read and heard seem to be pretty committed.
February 9, 2009 at 15:00 #209141Wasn’t there a health scare about snuff a while ago? My Aunty Kitty always took snuff, she used to put it on the back of her hand..in fact I’ve got a tiN here,it’s called McChrystals snuff; the original and genuine..it’s in the most exquisite little tin..as I’m not at work today I shall partake in a little bit.
February 9, 2009 at 15:04 #209143Wasn’t there a health scare about snuff a while ago?
Dunno, but I am fairly confident those types of movies are illegal.
February 9, 2009 at 19:34 #209206Wasn’t there a health scare about snuff a while ago? My Aunty Kitty always took snuff, she used to put it on the back of her hand..in fact I’ve got a tiN here,it’s called McChrystals snuff; the original and genuine..it’s in the most exquisite little tin..as I’m not at work today I shall partake in a little bit.
There is weak, anecdotal evidence that a lifetime of snuff taking can increase the risk of nasal cancer but that is a rare disease, possibly rendered slightly less rare by snuff. It was a report in The Lancet (medical mag) back in the early eighties highlighting the safety of snuff compared to smoking tobacco that led to the government removing excise duty on it, in the hope smokers would turn to it in their droves, which to no great surprise didn’t happen.
Hope the ‘Original and Genuine’ gave you a lift and cleared the sinuses; it’s a nice mentholated brand
February 25, 2010 at 14:33 #14226My missus gave up smoking by using Zyban (I think). But, if I remember correctly she had to take the tablets for about a fortnight and continue to smoke before stopping – and then just stopped. I was amazed as she had been on about 40 rollies a day since I met her.
Stick with it Marb, (maybe not with the tablets if it’s going to be affected by your other drugs) but it’s well worth giving up.
Btw, do rattle when you walk
February 25, 2010 at 20:47 #279134Is it Champix, marb? From memory, Zyban was an anti depressant that was found to have a side effect of stopping people from wanting to smoke, whereas Champix was created purely to help people stop. Having just googled it, I didn’t realise that you actually took the tablets and smoked for the first week, and then increased the dose.
February 25, 2010 at 22:23 #279168Loads of people at my work are on these plastic fags with nicotine refills and pseudo ‘smoke’ (even lights up at the end like a cigarette). It doesn’t seem to be getting them off the nicotine but it is cheaoper than the ciggies I think.
February 25, 2010 at 22:31 #279170Good luck with it marb!
Think the secret to stopping smoking is the will to want to do it. Without really, really wanting to stop I don’t think you can, no matter what you try to use.
I smoked for about 14 years and the last few years was smoking quite a considerable amount, so much so that I was waking up on a morning with a really bad cough and a tight chest with the feeling that I had swallowed an ashtray!
The clincher for me was losing my Mum to Cancer at a time when she shouldn’t have been taken from us, it made something click inside and I told myself I had to stop for the sake of my little girl. I gave myself a target date to stop and me and my partner worked up to that date and then both started on patches.
2 days in and my partner couldn’t last any longer and continued smoking again, the day after I just thought to myself that the patches were just a physcological thing, so stopped using them but still managed to stop!
I smoked my last Cig at just before Midnight on the 14th May 2004, exactly a month after my Mum passed away. Strangely enough, I can say I haven’t had the slightest craving for one at all since then and now know for certain I will never smoke again.
I’d say it took me a good 18 months or so before I felt the real benefit of not smoking. I’m still clinging on to my football career and ‘inside’ I’m as fit as I think I’ve ever been and can breeze through 90 minutes, it’s just the old legs that can’t take it now. I did put about a stone and a half on in the months after stopping, but am pretty comfortable at the weight I’m at now.
Good luck again, and like I say if you really do want to stop and you have strong enough reason to do so, then you will…
February 25, 2010 at 23:46 #279177My friend tried those Nicotine patches for ages.
He had to give them up as they were far too chewy!
February 26, 2010 at 01:27 #279180Three years off the fags. Still fatter than I was, still not the same bloke mentally and still miss certain fags, (the first one of the day), but in the end, you’re only ever packing in ONE cigarette (er, the first one of the day.) I used chewing gum and would recommend them to anyone.
Interesting side effect related to your wood comment. I had the most erotic dream of my entire life in late 2007 and it wasn’t about a woman – it was about smoking a cigarette. LOL. Freud would have loved that.
Good luck, Martin meowd. You won’t regret it.
August 11, 2010 at 17:09 #15927I started using an electronic cigarette on July 28, 2009 and have not smoked a cigarette since. It worked for me, a 30 year smoker, and my brother who smoked for 25 years, so it can work for you too.
Plus it is mega bucks cheaper than smoking cigarettes.August 11, 2010 at 17:15 #312271Did you read the book by Allen Carr when trying to quit?
Not to be confused with anything by the camp comedian!
August 11, 2010 at 17:20 #312273Nah, I didn’t do the Allan Carr thing. I have the Nintendo DS cart but didn’t really use it.
I tried all the nic replacement routines, inc. Champix, and nothing worked for me at all. Then I bought an e-cig and here I am today … a non-smoker
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