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Looks a very smart filly
I was on legacy link and counting my money as she sythed through.
Then glanced over and thundering on was cantering. Was hoping she wouldnt stay but simply too good.
Dont mind losing to performances of that quality.
The ballydoyle lot didnt seem to be going overly quick so was a surprise the race fell apart like it did.
She seems to have improved markedly from two to three and with that rapid rate of improvement, who knows where she will end up, she certainly has a high cruising speed and change of gear to go with it.
This is also Frankel’s 4th Oaks winner since 2019, 3 of which have come in the last 4 years.
She was very good wasn’t she. You could tell the jockey was confident from a long way out. I do apologise if it sounded salty pre-race but I’ll be honest its boredom with the sport when you have the same guy winning everything, I rarely bet now so I just want to see competitive racing and part of that is about others getting their turn occasionally. The bits about AE were what I’d have been looking at from a betting perspective. I can’t remember many Oaks winners wearing two lots of headgear, its pretty rare they have one lot on.
I think she was very good and I doubt that the Ballydoyle Derby contenders are as good as Aidan tells us.
Canny ride from Colin Keane but the winner trounced her so pleased this hasn’t gone to Coolemore. Amelia Earhart was somewhat overhyped you only have to look at her form figures to think what is the fuss all about.
The more I know the less I understand.
She lived up to her name didn’t she.. brilliant win. Thought Legacy Link was coming to win it but my serial 2nd’s continue 🤣 Jac
Did anyone back her?
Dismal run by Amelia Earhart.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I just keep thinking that if her stamina came from Frankel what would Frankel have done over 12f?
She was the only horse to break 12s for the last furlong and she was the only one that went under 12s for the last 4F. Her finishing FSP was 111.01% and she also recorded the top speed of 38.71mph.
The sectionals are very interesting as there is a lot of slow and very slow to par furlongs in the second half of the race, everyone of the field bar the winner and K Sarra run the first furlong faster than par (those two ran it fast to par) – Sugar Island was the only horse to run the 2nd furlong very fast to par, a further 3 ran it fast to par with the remaining 5 running it to par.
The 6th furlong everyone ran fast to par (bar Sugar Island who ran to par) but after that there were only 3 subsequent individual furlongs that were run at par or faster – the first two both ran to par for 9th furlong and then the winner ran the last furlong fast to par whilst Legacy Link ran it slow to par with the rest of the field all running it very slow to par.
Might indicate that the ground on the whole of the round course is a bit more testing than the official good to soft description – many jockeys have reported it as soft ground while a few have said its good to soft. Interestingly with any potential rain overnight likely to fall on the opened up ground down the stand side and a new strip of ground on the far side being used tomorrow could it be that today’s unused ground on the far side will be riding slight faster than the stand side?
Moehat – I am convinced Frankel would have won the Derby that year and would have stayed 12F as a three year old let alone as a 4yr old, he won his first race over 1m on soft ground on Newmarket’s July course which has a stiff uphill finish and we all saw what he did in the Royal Lodge at Ascot over 1m.
I know Sir Henry was always worried that he wouldn’t settle early in his races especially give the natural speed he had but when he ran him after that 2000g next in the St James’s Palace Stakes he settled perfectly fine and we all saw how well he settle in front in the Sussex Stakes after Ascot so in retrospect I think it wouldn’t have been an issue.
It is notable how much stamina he imparts on his offspring and yes I know the dam plays a big part in that side of things too but he has sired Yorkshire Cup, St Leger and Ascot Gold Cup winners and most of his best progeny have been middle distance horses.
To me the only quibbles I had with Frankel’s career was the fact they didn’t go to the Derby and after that as a 4 yr old they should have stepped him up to 10F in the POW at Royal Ascot especially given what he did in the Queen Anne, in that form imagine what he would have done to So You Think in the POW – baring in mind that Farhh (beaten 7L in the Juddmonte later that season) was only beaten 2L by So You Think).
I hate talking about the Arc at this stage of the season, but if she would be Coolmore owned you’d only get about half of the 10/1 available right now. She looks a horse that needs every yard of a 10-12f trip and the ground conditions in October will be in her favour. Winning her first race when tried at 10f and then winning the Oaks next time out by three and six lengths makes her very special indeed. Legacy Link was the right yardstick in the race and she couldn’t have beaten her more convincingly.
She’ll be receiving a lot of weight from Daryz at Longchamp but she has a long was to go to reach that level, no matter how impressive she was today.
“I just keep thinking that if her stamina came from Frankel what would Frankel have done over 12f?”
I know some racing fans think he would’ve stayed 12f but Henry Cecil didn’t and he knew the horse better than anybody.
I defer to nobody in my admiration of Henry Cecil, but he trained Frankel not to stay a mile and a half: preserving the horse’s unbeaten record was, in my opinion, more important to him than winning the Derby.
Still, this debate has been held on this forum several times over the years.
When they are that strung out it pays not to go overboard on the form. The winner looks a very good filly but back on good ground and a conventional track i can see it being much closer. A few didnt handle either epsom or the conditions. Plus diamond necklace and precise possibly awaiting the winner later on in the season. Its made the fillies group ones very tasty over 10 to 12 furlongs.
Btw its pointless debating frankel not running in the derby. He didnt and he had a great career. As we keep getting told its 10 furlongs where stallions need to excel though why it cant be 10 to 12f i cant fathom. The arc surely the race most owners want to win. Imho of course.
Very good performance , cut through the ground well , will suit October at Longchamp .
Frankel gets best mares so that helps him but hes some stallion . He has very few runners in OZ but he has regular winners , another this afternoon at Flemington . Some of his lesser lights out here seem to stand plenty of racing too , 70 plus runs at advanced years a couple i know of.
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