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  • #129632
    Avatar photocormack15
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    Somewhere there is a biographer who must be rubbing his hands at the prospect of compiling the Fallon story.

    You are correct – you couldn’t make it up.

    Surely Coolmore must take a look at their riding arrangements if the B sample is positive, regardless of any official action.

    #129633
    Gareth Flynn
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    12-18 month ban, and Johnny Murtagh installed as stable jockey before February is out?

    #129634
    davidjohnson
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    Somewhere there is a biographer who must be rubbing his hands at the prospect of compiling the Fallon story.

    You are correct – you couldn’t make it up.

    Surely Coolmore must take a look at their riding arrangements if the B sample is positive, regardless of any official action.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kieren-Fallon-B … 837&sr=8-1

    #129639
    JimF
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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kieren-Fallon-B … 837&sr=8-1

    … and Amazon are displaying a sense of humour in making the ‘Perfect Partner’ coupling with "Racing Post’s 500 Strangest Racing Stories"!!! :lol:

    #129647
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    I was never a fan of Fallon and now I am beginning to really dislike this man.

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    I am a great believer in giving guys the benefit of the doubt but this guy is like an accident waiting to happen.

    Coke, allegedely, [deleted] what next?

    The thing is people will still use his services which makes them as bad as him in my book.

    Sick of the sound of his name…….I’m going to watch a recording of Kauto and stop thinking about the twat.

    This post does not mean I have changed my mind about racing taking care of there own problems.

    He will be suspened by the French Irish and English but to me that isn’t enough………..he should be banned for life from even looking at a horse.

    #129657
    andyod
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    I live in the USA and watch great American jockeys riding everyday.Every day Gerry Bailey appeals for understanding for jockeys who have substance abuse problems including himself. He categorically states how he had to conquer a substance abuse problem. Most of the great jockeys had to face and defeat such problems. In England Walter Swinbourn and Johnny Murtagh both fought alcohol problems,sometimes even publicly and maybe still do for all we know.The great Steve Cauthen acknowledged his battles with ancohol. Over here Chris Antley died fighting drugs,soon after he won the Kentucky Derby. But we never poured scorn or hatred on them because of their problems.They had given us so much pleasure while riding we never knew at what cost to themselves.Fallon is a typical example.His love of racing helped him overcome a terrible accident and return to the career he had so much talent for.
    I am amazed at the arrogance of people in the forum expressing contempt for Fallon because of his weakness instead of support in his battle to restore himself.Fallon is the one we know of.How many others are there fight weight and depression problems in the world of jockeys.
    Please give them a break They give us so much pleasure sitting in our arm chairs before a warm fire and a cosy drink,risking their lives every day to make a living.

    #129660
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    My friend although I hear what you are saying, I’m sorry you will and should not get any sympathy from anyone. The don’t ban these substances just on a whim.

    The problem here is a guy high on coke thinks he’s the King of The Castle.
    All it takes is for him to see a gap that isn’t there and anything could happen. Not hallucinate just think it’s easy for me I’m the greatest……cos that is what coke does to you….makes you feel like you can do anything.

    If Fallon takes coke in his spare time and the effects have totally worn off when he is riding then I have no objections……But I don’t make the rules. The people that do have the problem of working out when he took it, what state was he in when he was riding etc etc………so there is no line to be drawn here……….you take it, you get caught, you are out….this is not America and you don’t pass go and collect $200 either,,,,,,,,,,,out out out you are gone!!!

    If he’s having a snort before he goes out and as you say he loves horses, he should hang up his boots right now, until such times he has chucked the habit completely.

    It is only a matter of time before a horse or worse a Jockey is killed due to him or someone else taking drugs.

    The sport has enough problems of it’s own without nursmaiding a guy hooked on coke. That was his personal choice and it is his problem and no one elses. He odviously doesn’t give a damn about anyone but himslelf or he would have chucked the habit a long time ago………..How would you feel if your son was put through the rails by him when he was high? You need not answer that because we know the answer already.

    #129661
    thedarkknight
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    Even Alastair Down appears to have lost patience with Fallon….

    #129741
    guskennedy
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    I find myself in broad agreement with the tenor of Down’s article today as I did with the advice offered to Fallon by David Ashforth in yesterday’s paper. It’s about time Fallon had a long look in the mirror and considered the way he has conducted himself over the last few years.

    #129758
    % MAN
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    I must admit I have now reached the point where I would say enough is enough.

    I have never really liked the man as a person, after all what sort of man pulls a fellow jock off a horse? However his character does not impact his ability to ride.

    As a jockey there is no question as to his ability and I had always hoped and believed he was not guilty of throwing races. I am even still happy to put the Lingfield ride down to a "bad day at the office."

    I am also pleased that his employers have stood by him. They have shown immense loyalty when they could easily have washed their hands of him.

    It looks, however, that loyalty is something that is not reciproicated by Fallon.

    If he is found guilty on the drugs charge it will be a massive kick in the teeth to those who have supported and stood by him.

    If he is guilty and banned then I sincerely hope it will be the last ban he ever receives in racing – in other words I hope he walks away and never returns.

    No matter how good he is as a rider the man has a severe character flaw.

    We don’t need him in racing any more he brings too much shame on the sport.

    #129760
    stevedvg
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    Even Alastair Down appears to have lost patience with Fallon….

    What did he say?

    I’m quite interested in hearing what Down, a self-confessed substance abuser, had to say about the idea that Fallon may also be a substance abuser.

    Steve

    #129761
    Flash
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    I have no time for anyone that uses any illegal drug.

    How stupid people are.

    Trouble is following Fallon around like night follows day. Either learn to behave Kieran or do us all a favour and get out of the sport.

    #129796
    clivex
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    It’s a shame people think the fix scandal is more serious than this

    I cant go along with this at all. He is a very strange bloke with a seeming self destructive streak but i am not sure that even on a second offence this warrants an 18 month ban.

    More interesting is the always well informed Alan lees piece in the Times today. I suppose its not unexpected but it would appear that O’Brien (who is hardly likely to be found at a swingers party with a spoon up his nose :shock: ) has completely lost patience not only with the drugs but also (and this was interesting…) the"suspect company"

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ … 025875.ece

    #129814
    no idea
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    Just heard on At The Races and quote from Aidan O’Brien "everyone knew he had substance addiction before he came here and whilst he was here"

    How can racing hold its head up at the minute when you have one of the top triners and I assume the owners aware of their lockey abusing drugs and basically stating that that is fine.

    What sort of example does that send out to the young sportsmen of today thinking of a career in racing. They should all hold their heads in shame.

    And why is the public not made aware. I hope the police take note of the comments of O’Brien and raid his stable looking for drugs. That would be fun

    #129837
    Gareth Flynn
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    How can racing hold its head up at the minute when you have one of the top triners and I assume the owners aware of their lockey abusing drugs and basically stating that that is fine.

    Where does he "basically state that it is fine"?

    If you banned everyone in racing who had had a drug or drink problem at some stage, how many would be left?

    Are you of the opinion that peope with substance abuse problems should be left to hang out to dry by their employers?

    #129841
    clivex
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    Depends in what context he was describing KF. You can be an addict who is not using.

    Im not sure that AOb was condoning continued use

    Reports today suggest that that was how AOB was describing him, given that hes seemingly completely pissed off that hes been found using again

    #129844
    Gareth Flynn
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    Reading between the lines, it comes across that whilst on a personal level O’Brien just wants Fallon to get help and sort himself out, on a professional level it’s becoming increasingly difficult for him to consider working closely with him unless such an undertaking to do so is made by Fallon. And even then, with the possibility of another ban hanging over him, that might not be enough.

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