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I ‘m with Pinza here. How any one can say that winning the Lockinge on Russian Rhythm was a dodgy ride, and that was one of the races listed as those being investigated, is beyond belief.
All humans are fallable, we all make mistakes in our lives, none of us are perfect.
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All humans are fallable, we all make mistakes in our lives, none of us are perfect.
Well said.
Suggested origin of the word
fallible
: one likely to make mistakes (from Old Irish
"fallon"
or
"felon"
).
You say the nicest things, RD.
I try. It may not be nice and I actually never for one moment stated that he was guilty of anything. The mere accusations though, regardless of guilt, tend to stick in ppls minds. Mud sticks, and it’s bloody hard to wash off. It goes directly to his character that he has so much baggage to carry around.
In any track and field sport, even snooker (remember Kirk Stevens?), he would no longer be part of the game, it also goes to the stupidly, ridiculously lax rules of the JC that he still has a career as a jockey.
I can’t be sympathetic for him afraid. If that makes me a bad person then so be it.I have never known a jockey polarise opinion in the same way as Fallon has, and still continues to do so. My own view is that he has brought most of his problems upon himself throughout his career. As I said when opening this thread, I am not his greatest fan, whilst understanding his appeal to others. He has undoubtedly ridden some great races, but has always been able to make his fair proportion of howlers on the course by finding traffic problems, and his off course problems have been well documented.
I accept that he needs punishing for this latest mistake, but it still seems harsh to me that he misses both classics particularly when his view of the fast finishing horse on the outside was obscured.
Perhaps consideration should be given in future to amending the rules so that bans do not apply to Group 1 races and the classics.
\\\\\\\\\\So Lester failed to pay his full taxes.I wonder how many of us committ the same pecadillo?If memory serves me correctly our favorite jockey with the big public appeal had a run in with drugs! I guess the good guys are easier to excuse.
I have never known a jockey polarise opinion in the same way as Fallon has, and still continues to do so. My own view is that he has brought most of his problems upon himself throughout his career. As I said when opening this thread, I am not his greatest fan, whilst understanding his appeal to others. He has undoubtedly ridden some great races, but has always been able to make his fair proportion of howlers on the course by finding traffic problems, and his off course problems have been well documented.
I accept that he needs punishing for this latest mistake, but it still seems harsh to me that he misses both classics particularly when his view of the fast finishing horse on the outside was obscured.
Perhaps consideration should be given in future to amending the rules so that bans do not apply to Group 1 races and the classics.
\\\\\\\\\\Why? Jockeys can already defer a ban if it’s below 4 days and the time would cover group 1 races. The whole point is punishment for an offence.
The ban he was given was, I think, the minimum penalty for the rule he breached.
I’m amazed that so many people (not just on here) are taking the "he’s hard done by approach", especially as there are some that I’ve seen go completely ape when other jockeys have done the same thing. He’s been around long enough to know that you ride out to the line, he didn’t, he got caught.
He’s going to appeal so it’ll probably all work out dandy.
Personally, I really don’t care one way or the other – didn’t back anything in the race, I’m not connected to the horse and ruing the lost £200 – but I do find the hypocrisy amusing.
The hypocracy to which you refer applies to the manner in whichn Fallon lost two years of his career for no offence that could be proven.The drug problem stemmed from that treatment of the best jockey now riding.It was a French matter .
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The ban he was given was, I think, the minimum penalty for the rule he breached.
It was. And it was a merited punishment. He should not be riding in the Guineas. People seem to be schizoid about Mr Fallon, Roseblossom. They seem to need to knock him down when he’s up, and hoist him up when he’s down. I find it confusing too.
He was partially successful with his appeal in that his ban was reduced from 10 to 7 days. He still misses the Guineas meeting though
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Another BHA fudge.
What makes you say that?
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10 days to 7
Would to CouldThat’s the appeal judgement, sure. I saw it. But why do you call this a "fudge"? It’s not as if it got Fallon back in the Guineas.
Well we "could" always say "could" in any close finish but on the balance of probability I think it would be long odds on that he would have kept second place if he’d ridden out, just give him the 10 day ban and tell him to ride out to line.
I’ve even heard pundits on tv defend Fallon for the ride because the other horse came so late and fast on the outside on the basis that Fallon couldn’t be expected to know it was coming, isn’t that one of the main reasons you should ride out to the line?
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