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It’s utterly irrelevant where I, or any other poster on here, was born. Bringing another poster’s nationality into an argument is totally unacceptable.
The very reason I think it was a disgrace running Dylan Thomas was because he has been such a fantastic servant – both to Coolmore and to racing in general this season.
That is why I didn’t want to see him turn up at the track looking and running like a hippo. It wasn’t fair on the horse and has tarnished what has been such a fantastic career.
Bin reading cuttings and AoB was expressing concerns about the hard season, but also saying DT seemed fine to him
Strange that he would state he seems fine leading up to race, but horse is reported as looking like a horse in foal
It’s utterly irrelevant where I, or any other poster on here, was born. Bringing another poster’s nationality into an argument is totally unacceptable.
I was actually referring to Aidan, Gareth rather than you. Don’t get too touchy about it though – it was only a bit of friendly banter and there is no need for the PC police to get involved here….
(BTW – where are you from? Blackpool?
)That is why I didn’t want to see him turn up at the track looking and running like a hippo. It wasn’t fair on the horse and has tarnished what has been such a fantastic career.
Possibly the fact that it was out of the domestic eye made the decision easier.
The interesting angle to this is guessing how much the targets are dictated by the owners. Thats fair enough, but if it had been purely down to AOB???? Dont suppose we wil ever know
Unless theres a bio with a Sunday serialisation of "My Hell At Coolmore"
.It’s utterly irrelevant where I, or any other poster on here, was born. Bringing another poster’s nationality into an argument is totally unacceptable.
I was actually referring to Aidan, Gareth rather than you. Don’t get too touchy about it though – it was only a bit of friendly banter and there is no need for the PC police to get involved here….
(BTW – where are you from? Blackpool?
)Salselon – It is an Irish thing I think. Everything that O’Brien, Fallon et al do is viewed through emerald tinted spectacles.
Not exactly. From what i gather, i’m from (& lived until 4/5 years ago) closer to Coolmore than either Gareth or Aidan. But, i would agree there are pockets of people in Ireland who will support and defend their ‘own’ regardless of the circumstances at hand. So, there is some, though not absolute truth, in what you say. Imho, of course
Gareth, Aidan,
Everyone has their preferences in racing, but to defend the late season campaigning of DT opens you both up to all manner of ridicule.I’ll ask for the umpteenth time – what is it with Coolmore that produces such a defensive attitude within you both whenever they are criticised?
Also, Gareth, to make a reference to TRF as you did, when you contribute more to a board full of cliques and back slapping is a bit sad..
Yes andrew. Couldnt agree more with the last line. If any forum does keep to "the discussion" its this one
But no lets have a go at connections for one questionable decision
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Why not?
If Ouija Board had flopped so badly in her last couple of races when going for targets that might be seen as less than ideal (put it politely) i am equally sure that there would be plenty of discussion here
Just as there was (endlessly) about Best Mate’s campaigning 9or lack of it) …as just one immediate example that springs to mind
Not exactly. From what i gather, i’m from (& lived until 4/5 years ago) closer to Coolmore than either Gareth or Aidan. But, i would agree there are pockets of people in Ireland who will support and defend their ‘own’ regardless of the circumstances at hand. So, there is some, though not absolute truth, in what you say. Imho, of course
The suggestion that "there are pockets of people in Ireland who will support and defend their ‘own’ regardless of the circumstances at hand" is irrelevant and, by implying that that is what I am engaged in, downright insulting. Just as – and this is purely an example – me claiming that clivex is arguing his side of the argument because some English people don’t like Irish people would be.
Everyone has their preferences in racing, but to defend the late season campaigning of DT opens you both up to all manner of ridicule.
Don’t attempt to misrepresent what I have and have not defended on this thread. I have already made this clear to you in a post yesterday evening.
As for ridicule, you’re the one who seems to think the Breeders Cup Turf was run on a figure of 8 course this year, and that running a horse on unsuitable ground is "indefensible". Not even tdk agrees with that.
Also, Gareth, to make a reference to TRF as you did
What on earth are you on about?
Can’t stick to the discussion at hand, lads? No? Why’s that?
Poor show, but not unexpected on here.
This is what i am on about
Do excuse me, i meant figure-8 like, in terms of tight bends, etc. Should have checked that.
Please don’t try to say you were referring to the thread, really not believable.
Again – why the Coolmore loyalty? What inspires it?
Not exactly. From what i gather, i’m from (& lived until 4/5 years ago) closer to Coolmore than either Gareth or Aidan. But, i would agree there are pockets of people in Ireland who will support and defend their ‘own’ regardless of the circumstances at hand. So, there is some, though not absolute truth, in what you say. Imho, of course
The suggestion that "there are pockets of people in Ireland who will support and defend their ‘own’ regardless of the circumstances at hand" is irrelevant and, by implying that that is what I am engaged in, downright insulting. Just as – and this is purely an example – me claiming that clivex is arguing his side of the argument because some English people don’t like Irish people would be.
It is not insulting, and no, it is completely unlike what you mention re Clive.
and there was every chance that it might have been Tabor who drove the decision making anyway…
Please don’t try to say you were referring to the thread, really not believable.
You’ve already made it clear that you don’t wish to take anything I say at face value, so why start now?
Why should I believe your explanation of what you meant by a figure-of-8 track? I do because I have no reason to believe that you’re being disingenuous. I’m not looking for an ulterior motive or a cheap implication of bias in your background in everything you write. It’s a shame that your own preconceptions prevent you from doing the same.
The suggestion that "there are pockets of people in Ireland who will support and defend their ‘own’ regardless of the circumstances at hand" is irrelevant and, by implying that that is what I am engaged in, downright insulting. Just as – and this is purely an example – me claiming that clivex is arguing his side of the argument because some English people don’t like Irish people would be.
It is not insulting, and no, it is completely unlike what you mention re Clive.
It is insulting to imply that I would defend Irish people "regardless of the circumstances at hand" based purely on their nationality.
The analogy I made is perfectly valid; it would be a baseless claim suggesting a preconceived bias that doesn’t exist.
and there was every chance that it might have been Tabor who drove the decision making anyway…
Precisely Clive – indeed two of the three principles in Coolmore are English. Kind of shoots down Salselon’s theory that I’m blindly defending "my own", doesn’t it?
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