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As a racehorse – This weapon was the greatest (on the flat) in my living memory. Unlike the ”superstars” since him – Dubai Millennium crushed everything that came in his path rather than beat them by a length after being ridden for the last 3 furlongs. This is why I get upset when average (compared to DM) horses like Falbrav, Fantastic Light, Kalanisi and Galileo get to share the word superstar with Dubai Millennium.
What’s also upsetting is the fact that he could only contaminate one crop but in a funhouse mirror kind of way – next year is likely to become the best for the classics we will see for a very long time and I can not wait.
It’s very early days for the superstars progency but it’s already looking magical with Dubawi making it three from three for the offspring clocking a group race in the process.
There is a plethora of exceptional mares covered by Dubai Millennium who’s kids have yet to see a racetrack like Regal Silk (Reve D’Oscar) November Birthday (November Snow) Grosvenor Square (Embassy) Dorrati (Bahr) and Intishaar (Bint Shadayid) to name a small few. It’s very likely that the best is yet to come.
I hope that next years classics are all dominated by Dubai Millenniums children because it would be a most fitting tribute and would undoubtedly prove the superabundance of talent that the great late one once possesed.
In my years of watching racing Dubai Millenium is certainly the best 1m 2f horse that I have ever seen. I know there are probably quite alot of people who think he was overated but in my opinion he stands alongside the best.
I really wish he had been able to run in the Breeder’s Cup classic to show the Americans what a superb horse he was.
I hope some of his kids turn out to be Group 1 animals.
Regal Silk is entered @ Salisbury 10th July
George Smith Horseboxes E B F Maiden Stakes (Class D) 7f (6f212y)
Grosvenor Square  @ Windsor 12th July
Choisir Maiden Stakes (Class D) 6f
Agreed Kotkijet, DM is on a different track to those listed and probably quite a bit better than the "old favourites" who nowadays it seems nothing can be better than eg. Brigadier Gerard, Dancing Brave, Mill Reef, Ribot, Sea Bird, Nijinsky.
Racehorses improve through the years with breeding and training techniques DM is the best there has been thus far.
Martin
For once we are agreed KJ :)
I’ve been really impressed with the start to the season these offspring have had – yes DM was sent the best mares but even that won’t help a bad stallion. The results so far obviously owe something to the meticulous planning of Godolphin and Darley but it looks like there could be some sound Classic contenders next year and I really hope there is a win amongst them.
Certainly looking forwards to the rest of this season!
Actually noting that Sheikh Mohammed owns virtually all of the family now, what a boost this could be for Darley in their ongoing match with Coolmore.
Lucky Sheikh M!
Godolphin Vs. Coolmore is it?<br>Then let me predict that Giant’s Causeway sires more stakes winners in his first crop than Dubai Millenium.
Giant’s Causeway probably has more offspring for a start.
Dubai Millennium hasn’t started too badly with Dubawi and Belenus and Echo of Light is yet to come…
It’s all far too exciting for me – I was D.M’s biggest fan – and I’ll make it to Epsom in June 2005 to see one of his sons win the Derby. :)
can be better than eg. Brigadier Gerard, Dancing Brave, Mill Reef, Ribot, Sea Bird, Nijinsky
<br> <br>:o
Almost, though not quite as mad, as the quote regarding Attraction being the best three year old filly ever!!
Dubai Millenium was good horse but in my opinion he was greatly over rated. His performance in Dubai looked good but then again so did Moon Ballads. He beat a non stayer in Sendawar in the Prince Of Wales, and he himself finished absolutely legless in that race. He may well have been superior to those horses you mentioned (not sure about all of them) but you left out the best race horse I have lived to see (excluding Hawk Wing of course! ;) ) Montjeu. He at his best would have outstayed and indeed outclassed Dubai Milenium in the Prince Of Wales. A truely magnificent beast in terms of physique, ability and aura. And he aint doing half bad with his two year olds either…….indeed he could well have the Derby winner next year. Its a shame both never met in the Irish Champion that time…..though in reflection Montjeu looked to have enough of the game by the Autumn.
GC will certainly have more offspring then DM.
Obviously he will also have some quality mares producing some of that group but the difference is that DM had nothing BUT top mares.
It will be interesting to see who tops the tables at the end of the season but a lot of people own GC offspring.
Only one man owns the vast majority of the Dubai M family, as well as his dam etc, and if they turn out to be anywhere near as good as his sire then Darley could be set in very good stead.
Its a long way off before even talking about Dubai Milenium being a top class stallion let alone a sire of sires!! The better Giant’s Causeways should be coming on track soon, saw alot of them at the sales. They looked huge and needed time.
Can you think of any in particular Aidan that you might know of to be some good Giant’s Causeways?
I’m all rooting for D.M’s progeny. Godolphin will handle them with more care and precision than any other youngsters that have been under their roof, so they will be well placed and not rushed.
Tanzani of Clive Brittain’s, debuted behind Godolphin’s Personify recently, is a son of Giant’s Causeway who I think could be very, very good. His first run was a little indifferent, but when he’s stepped up next year and has grown fully – he’ll be some horse.
Dubai Millennium has made a good start – with 3 wins from 3 runs. There are 25+ other offspring of DM that could all be completely useless. Echo Of Light is the only one that I want to see. Saeed Bin Suroor thinks this is DM in every way. But, I have not been overly impressed by either Dubawi or Belenus. Of course it would be great to see the progeny of DM keep his memory alive, but I wont be going overboard about them. Im prepared to stand well and truly corrected.
We will only be able to say with any confidence at the end of the season. But just because Dubai Millennium was a top performer – doesnt mean his swimmers are.
I’m prepared to be corrected too!
I just hope there are some good horses in this crop, if so then Darley I believe own most of the Fall Aspen line’s best produce.
There is one called Watchtower which I’ve heard could be smart, worth looking out for.
Yes, Watchtower is out of Balisada who won the Coronation Stakes and was second in the Falmouth. Over a mile – ten furlongs, he could be very smart.
Interesting thread, but as we all know, its not necessarily the best racecourse performers who produce the best offspring
The genes have to be there of course, but, although im no breeding expert, i do recall similar excitement re Dancing Brave
Quote: from Irish Stamp on 10:12 pm on July 8, 2004[br] DM is on a different track to those listed and probably quite a bit better than the "old favourites" who nowadays it seems nothing can be better than eg. Brigadier Gerard, Dancing Brave, Mill Reef, Ribot, Sea Bird, Nijinsky. <br>
Yes he definitely was better than Brigadier Gerard who could only manage 17 wins from his 18 races including the 2000 Guineas 1971, King George VI Queen Elizabeth Stakes 1972, Eclipse Stakes 1972, Champion Stakes 1971, Champion Stakes 1972, Sussex Stakes 1971, Queen Elizabeth II Stakes, 1971Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 1972, St. James Palace Stakes1971, Prince of Wales’s Stakes 1972, Lockinge Stakes 1972, Middle Park Stakes 1970.
And I would have to concede that he most surely would have demolished Dancing Brave who only won Group Ones at three different distances, including of course a valueless Arc featuring brimfuls of Derby winners and Group One performers. In fact I think Dancing Brave would have enhanced his reputation no end if he too had dominated smallish fields of questionable class.
I won’t bother listing the others’ achievements. And I think calling Falbrav "average" , Kotkijet, just shows that, like fans of Dancing Brave, Nijinsky et al, those of you worshipping at the Temple of DM, are unwilling to accept that one day your hero will be supplanted by something better/at least as good. I think it is impossible to say if Falbrav is better than DM, but he won more Group Ones in more continents and kept it going from May to December too. In my book that’s pretty clever. I also agree with Aidan that Montjeu was peerless in his classic year and would have brushed DM aside.
I liked DM. He was brave and a beautiful animal and I hope his offspring do him justice; in particular Watchtower. I also hope that they actually achieve more on the track than he did.
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