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To find the true rate you need to find out how many tests have been done worldwide which isn’t easy to find.
The 2.42% you quote is derived from
1,302,566 deaths
53,710,060Which is correct a 2.42% mortality rate
There will be literally billions of people who have never been tested however.
If the entire world got tested right now then a certain percentage would test positive obviously but they aren’t dead.So the true survival rate is probably more 99.98% to be honest.
This figure can’t be verified but the death rate is next to nothing without any doubt using simple common sense.
This isn’t even accounting for the absolute fact that especially in the uk but not exclusively most the people who allegedly died of Covid didn’t even die of Covid.
When you then realise that the overwhelming people who die of Covid have on average 2.6 other serious conditions/illnesses then for a healthy person the death rate is almost non existent.
The reality is a common cold could have finished off the majority of the elderly who had 2.6 serious conditions/illness.
Do you seriously think that the economy should have been destroyed over this. You have concrete in your head if you answer yes.
In Scotland, since the pandemic began the number of people aged under 80 with no health conditions but reported to have died from Covid = 85.
In Liverpool, 90,000 people have been tested. Number of positive tests = 350. That is 0.4% in a city described as a Covid hotspot.
I find it incredible that young people are not protesting en masse, apart from the admirable students at Manchester University who tore down the fence that was put around their accommodation “for their own safety”.
The young are exceptionally unlikely to die from or even become unwell with Covid. Yet they are paying the price in disrupted education, ruined social lives and blighted career prospects. And unlike the middle aged supporters of lockdowns, they will be the people who ultimately have to pick up the bill.
I really feel sorry for them. If they do get a job, they will be working until they drop.
It’s terrible how many middle age people and older people are begging for lockdowns because they are scared and are giving no thought to the children who will live an entire life of poverty thanks to the over reaction. Disgusting how many selfish people there are who appear not to give a hoot about there children’s and grand children’s future.
I have been to 3 big protests in London, last one had around a hundred thousand people, 3 in Brighton and 1 in Birmingham and will die fighting for my 2 year old nephews future if I have to.
People also seem to have no respect for the people who died in WW2 to give us our freedoms and are happily giving them all away. Beyond disgusting. Shameful.
The young ones have been heavily conditioned from a young age for this as this has been many years in planning. Snowflake generation didn’t happen by accident.
So the true survival rate is probably more 99.98% to be honest.
That claimed 99.98% survival is obtained by simply dividing current recorded deaths (1.3 Million) by total world population (7.8 Billion) is it not?
Applying the same very-rough-and-ready deaths/total population criteria to Europe gives a survival rate of 99.93% and to the USA a rate of 99.92%
Ah ha! think I’ve discovered where you’ve obtained your original claim of 99.94%
All fairly useless information as cases/deaths will continue to rise whilst total population (in Europe and USA at least) remains more-or-less static i.e recovery percentages will slowly decline
The mass testing in Liverpool, mentioned by Cork All Star, if rolled out nationwide and worldwide will supply much more robust data. As the bossman at the WHO said all those months ago at the outbreak of this pandemic – TEST! TEST! TEST! Shame it’s taken this long to LISTEN! LISTEN! LISTEN!
Testing makes no sense whatsoever. It’s the flu season the hospitals get busy in the uk at this time of year it’s all perfectly normal. You think it makes sense to spend the entire NHS budget on testing. Good luck if you or your family ever need treatment for anything non Covid related. The nurses will quit en mass as they know full well it’s not safe to take the vaccine.
The deadly pandemic where the overall death rates or hospital admissions don’t rise on yearly average. You need to open your eyes this has nothing to do with a low level virus. The government downgraded the virus from a highly contagious infectious disease to flu level bug on March 19th which was 4 days before the first lockdown.
The flu has been around since time, there is even a vaccine for it, it will never be eradicated and can kill 60,000+ in the uk in a bad year. That’s life same as it’s always been. It picks off the elderly and vulnerable with underlying health conditions and for the rest of us it’s a few days in bed and crack on same as Covid.
Covid will never go away. So roll your sleeves up and crack on with things. If you want to lock yourself in a box for the rest of your life then you feel free to crack on and leave the rest of us to it.
Hand sanitiser, plenty of space, all good.
But what in the name of good sense is that second photo….for?If you can’t open the link, it’s a chap with what looks like one of those big supersoaker water pistols we used to have as kids, randomly spraying a tarmac walkway before racing with nobody else in sight.
There are several things wrong with this. Either he is using a disinfectant which has persistent activity in the environment- in which case the runoff is going to swill it into the soil, so they’d better have damn good scientific justification for causing chemical pollution. Or it doesn’t in which case what is he trying to do, kill corona that has been lurking on the tarmac since the last meeting (it doesn’t) just to provide a clean surface for 2000 people to immediately tramp more on?
Anyway, it’s not as if shoe soles are hooching with corona that is going to drop off then lie in wait for the next host’s shoe and climb up like a tick…all the way to the host’s nose.
(If shoes were a major vector for CV then supermarkets and hairdressers would be footdipping everyone on the way in. They’re not).Also, the chap appears to be wearing a cloth mask, not an FFP3 for filtering aerosols. So he’s aerosolising disinfectant all round himself and breathing that stuff in. The only person who thinks that’s a good thing is Donald Trump. If I was his employer’s liability insurer I’d be having a word (well, two: class+action) if they intended to keep that nonsense up.
I can understand a bit of optics, like taking photos of people wearing masks all afternoon out in the fresh air with a good breeze blowing round them and plenty of room to give others a wide berth. Not a pile of point but it looks good in the photo (and keeps your face nice and warm, the northerlies are getting worse this week).
But this photo is just silly. I’m embarrassed for them. Best case scenario it’s the purest of optics and the supersoaker contains nothing but plain water
I wondered that too
I reckon it is in case Billion turns up at the races and drops one of his hobnobs on the floor and uses the 10 second rule..
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Anyway, it’s not as if shoe soles are hooching with corona that is going to drop off then lie in wait for the next host’s shoe and climb up like a tick…all the way to the host’s nose.
(If shoes were a major vector for CV then supermarkets and hairdressers would be footdipping everyone on the way in. They’re not).Working for a major supermarket, I can tell you that I don’t feel safe working at the moment. At the start of lockdown number 1 they controlled numbers in there, then they started to increase the numbers, all without any science to back thing up. In my humble opinion it was to increase outtake. Now on a busy day the more chance of catching the virus than anywhere else.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.
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It heartens me to see links like this on social media. Anyone who can’t wait to get the miracle vaccine is a right numpty imho
Welcome back Tank……..good stuff.
A very good article, and for what it’s worth, the stuff about the death certificates is 100% true.
That article must have been written around the beginning of October, as that was when the UK total was 42,000 deaths and coincided with the end of the summer hiatus, with few new cases and few deaths, when many were claiming ‘the pandemic is over’. Hospital beds did indeed have few covid patients then: around 1,000
Two months on, there’s been a 50% increase in deaths to 64,000 and hospitals currently have 17,000 covid inpatients
So, much in that article is old news and should really be revised and perhaps some of the hasty conclusions reappraised
It seems clear to me that by the first anniversary of this pandemic appearing, early next year that death totals will be approaching the 80,000 that succumbed to the Hong Kong Flu in 1968/69
I do though now agree – as we’ve now hard evidence rather than conjecture – that lockdowns and other restrictions on civil liberties solve little and only serve to delay the inevitable: to jumble a cliche they just kick the covid-filled can down the road ready to be prised open again when restrictions are lifted. That being the case the detrimental impact on the economy and other health issues does not warrant these severe restrictions
I will certainly take the vaccine when offered it, though am in no hurry and actually rather glad I’m towards the bottom of the priority list as I feel there needs to be at least several months of diligent follow-up observation on efficacy and safety
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Just had a quick look at the ‘other place’ and not surprised that 95% of them over there are wanting the miracle vaccine – that’s the rushed-out vaccine that I wouldn’t touch with the proverbial bargepole myself.
A couple of things did surprise me though. Our very own Moehat has dropped her hat: It probably blew off her head on a windy night when she was having one of her midnight walks – she goes that late as she’s terrified of other people getting too close – I guess she abandoned said hat in case it blew past a human, and she ran back home screaming. She seems to have mutated into a thug as well! I was shocked to read that she would want to do serious damage to any anti-vaxxer that she might bump into- this is our sweet, old Moe! The reason for this seems to be that one of her friends caught Covid in Hospital and died – as they do- she was only a young 96 year old though, so must have been a shock to absolutely nobody.
Anyway, this is a much bigger shock – Our very own Drone, on the same thread as above- got the your/you’re thing wrong!!! Guess it just goes to show that he’s human after all
Better dash now before Moehat catches up with me to deal out some of the aforementioned serious damage. Don’t tell her that I’m an anti-masker as well or she’ll probably want to kill all my family as well- just to make sure that she’s rubbed out all of the evil
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Make sure to tell her I was only joking!
Our very own Drone, on the same thread as above- got the your/you’re thing wrong!!! Guess it just goes to show that he’s human after all
Well spotted our very own Tanker
I’ve contributed little else but seriously dry ruminations on Covid this year; and reading them does give the impression that there composed by an AI Bot, so that all too common error helps prove their not
Hope the grockles and emmets evacuating London for they’re holiday homes down your way doesn’t cause a ‘new variant spike’. Plenty of softsouthernbastids – as we polite tykes refer to them – have been heading north so I expect squeaky-clean York will soon be plagued
Merry Chriswittymas* and a Happy New Tier
*with thanks to Private Eye
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Good stuff, Drone. I’ve always known you can be funny; given 24 hours notice
I don’t really do this Christmas lark these days, but a happy merry to you.From one old tanker to another x
(If shoes were a major vector for CV then supermarkets and hairdressers would be footdipping everyone on the way in. They’re not).
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