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The EU very quickly realised its mistake and corrected it. Something politicians this side of the Channel could learn a lot from.
All this tabloid furore is a non story being blown out of all proportion to distract from this country’s otherwise disastrous handling of the pandemic and the unadulterated clusterfk that Brexit has (entirely unsurprisingly) turned out to be.
Yeah…and re the former
The nurse and her husband -friends of mine – who were self isolating with covid at home are both still in a bad way. She was rushed by ambulance to St. Marys hospital Paddington on Friday with heart and breathing problems. She heard the doctor whispering about the patient in the next bed that he wouldn’t make it. He was soon ringing his bell for a doctor.
Her husband is still at home but has a fever of 39.3 (103 F) and is feeling rotten with his body aching all over.
She texted yesterday that she believes she has one of the new variants and she wrote.. “it is really really horrible – please take extreme care.”Hope your friends pull through gamble. Feel for them.
Keep safe.Value Is EverythingCome off it, Richard. EU’s triggering of Article 16 (however short) was a big deal. Not having a hard border between Northern and Southern Ireland is of massive importance. Rightly condemned by all media outlets and all politicians; right and left wing. Uniting the DUP, Sinn Fein, Southern Irish and UK governments together with the Labour Party. Some prominent politicians from EU countries even say the EU should apologise. Does this tabloid distraction of yours also include the Guardian?
I think what this does show is the EU panicked because it is desperate. Von Der and her cronies can see themselves being responsible for hundreds of thousands of Europeans dying.
The EU was too late in ordering vaccines.
The EU only ordered a small number of the different types of vaccine.Vaccines are notoriously difficult to get right and some may have to be thrown away (it is after all why every batch needs to be checked). ie It is inevitable some vaccine makers would have supply issues. That’s one reason why the UK ordered so many types of vaccine.
The EU took risks. Not only was the EU too late in ordering vaccine – probably trying to get the vaccine on the cheap – it also only ordered a small number of different types. So when two manufacturers had problems they’re well and truly f….d!
Indeed ,it could be argued that the EU was the one so desperate to distract from its own failings it wanted / needed to blame the UK.
Value Is EverythingWhy did the EU perform a U-turn on Article 16?
Was it because of the UK’s diapproval? Although possible I very much doubt they’d have done so had it been only the UK government complaiing.imo The EU U-turn happened because Southern Ireland (a member of the EU) thankfully kicked up such a fuss.
Suspect the Taoiseach told Von Der that if Article 16 wasn’t cancelled immediately, Southern Ireland would have no choice but to leave the EU.Makes me wonder What the EU is prepared to do to the UK without Southern Ireland standing in its way?
Value Is EverythingThe EU make a mistake, quickly realise they’ve made a mistake, and correct their mistake.
The Tory govt make mistakes, 1000s of their people die unnecessarily, and they keep making mistakesEveryone makes mistakes, befair. Important to note The government does not deliberately make decisions that kill thousands. Often there has been a choice between bloody awful and extremely bad. We’ve got a Conservative England, a Labour Wales, DUP / Sinn Fein Northern Ireland and SNP Scotland… And when decisions had to be made all UK nations have made similar decisions and have done a very similar job. So don’t see how you can blame Tories.
Any government also has to take their own population with it. We are basically a libertarian country… And as Drone pointed out in the Photo thread: The only governments that seem to have done well (if they’re telling the truth about stats) are totalitarian regimes (China, Vietnam), compliant populations (S. Korea, Taiwan), or far flung outposts (Australia and New Zealand)…
And as I illustrated there: Apart from Germany no other European country has done any better than the UK when considering density of population and especially considering we had the added problem of the Kent variant…
But there are mistakes by trying unsuccessfully to do the best for the country – and then there’s mistakes where there is no excuse. After years of Brexit negotiation they should’ve known the importance of Article 16. An EU mistake made through either hypocracy and/or desperation.
Value Is EverythingI agree the roll-out of vaccines has been excellent so far, but the delay in imposing the initial lockdown, the failure in providing sufficient PPE, the lack of attention to care homes, Eat Out To Help Out, and the disaster of test-and-trace, all resulted in 1000s of unnecessary deaths. Whether this was partly ideological “take it on the chin,” or mere incompetence is no consolation to the dead.
Quite right befair.
In my opinion the Sars covid crisis was totally underestimated by mostly all bar the far eastern countries.
The WHO has some teeth but no executive power. The whole world should have acted in unison and insisted on strong controls, or simply shut down airports and ships for travel.
The new variant possibilities were being talked about back in March, but it was a slow, predictable, reactive, and totally inappropriate response by most of the western world.
I feel deeply ashamed as a human being that others of my kind wreaked such havoc and unecessary death in care homes. These are people that are especially vulnerable and need utmost protection. It’s as if Dr Shipman was reincarnated in the form of the Western world governments.
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What’s the point in looking back at what should have been done?
Move on – most of the stuff written on forums and internet groups, social media etc is absolute bollocks anyway.
Life’s too short
Sleep tight x
The reason life is so short
for some, is that lessons are often not learned from the past. You cannot stop genocide but forgetting about genocides of the past, like the holocaust or unecessary deaths like the inappropriate handling of this pandemic does not bode well for the future
grown ups of this planet.Totally agree with your last point, gamble. Everyone has to learn from mistakes from the past – especially the big mistakes.
Also agree countries who suffered from the Sars outbreak had learnt more about how to tackle C19 and may be we (governments and people) failed to do so. However, you say from the start the whole world should’ve shut down its airports and shipping. In hindsight yes that would’ve been best; but do you remember the uproar when President Trump first shut the USA borders to European travel? And you’re saying everyone should’ve done it even sooner than that.
In reality it is not as easy as “the whole world should have acted in unison”. Even now – in western countries – we are today seeing demonstrations about Covid restrictions and many others playing down the virus…. And if countries go faster than their general populations want / believe they need, then a greater number take no notice of their government’s restrictions.
Hopefully we’d shut down sooner in any future outbreak of this or similar viruses. Personally I hope we ban holiday travel for some time.
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We are only here once, gamble, pointless to waste that time mithering about the future.
I’ve got a son in his 30s with a similar outlook to mine – so I don’t think that he’d think that I’m selfish for saying that.
I leave worrying about the future to the likes of Greta Thunberg. God bless her little pigtails
Greta may leave a reply to this in the photo thread later
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