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    Zarkava
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    Good things come to those who wait

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    Ivanovic gorbatov
    Tombstone
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    Listen dear / dont touch it (if back over hurdles)
    Would be my shortlist atm. Depending on handicap marks

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    Ben_Bernanke
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    right

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    Venture to Cognac
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    From my original list, I still like Winter Escape, Tommy Silver, and Princely Conn. I still think that Winter Escape looks big at 33’s, but I’ve finally had a play, and it’s a horse I’ve banged the drum for, many times on here before, and it’s Sternrubin. Placed in it last year off a very similar mark, and started this year in fine form. For a horse who’s as tough as old boots, I think the testing conditions were just too much for him here in November, whilst he was deprived of the services of Richard Johnson next time at Ascot. He should be better for a break, and the 33’s with Betfair Sportsbook is big. I’ve taken 50’s to 55’s on the exchanges.

    I’ll definitely add one more Ante-Post, and it’ll probably be Winter Escape, but I’ve got to be careful, as I’ve promised myself not to do any “books” on the handicaps this year. These guys all appeal………..

    Hargam 40’s
    Wait For Me 25’s
    All Set To Go 33’s
    Ivan Grozny Not listed
    Tommy Silver 33’s
    Princely Conn 40’s
    De Name Escapes Me 20’s
    Ivanovich Gorbatov 25’s
    Peace and Co 25’s
    Allblak Des Places 33’s

    …..and that’s without the dozen horses who get an entry and you realise you had completely overlooked. Not a race to go mad on, on the day, never mind a month away, but though Sternrubin was worth a go at those prices, and may add Winter Escape soon.

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    From my original list, I still like Winter Escape, Tommy Silver, and Princely Conn. I still think that Winter Escape looks big at 33’s, but I’ve finally had a play, and it’s a horse I’ve banged the drum for, many times on here before, and it’s Sternrubin. Placed in it last year off a very similar mark, and started this year in fine form. For a horse who’s as tough as old boots, I think the testing conditions were just too much for him here in November, whilst he was deprived of the services of Richard Johnson next time at Ascot. He should be better for a break, and the 33’s with Betfair Sportsbook is big. I’ve taken 50’s to 55’s on the exchanges.

    I’ll definitely add one more Ante-Post, and it’ll probably be Winter Escape, but I’ve got to be careful, as I’ve promised myself not to do any “books” on the handicaps this year. These guys all appeal………..

    Hargam 40’s
    Wait For Me 25’s
    All Set To Go 33’s
    Ivan Grozny Not listed
    Tommy Silver 33’s
    Princely Conn 40’s
    De Name Escapes Me 20’s
    Ivanovich Gorbatov 25’s
    Peace and Co 25’s
    Allblak Des Places 33’s

    …..and that’s without the dozen horses who get an entry and you realise you had completely overlooked. Not a race to go mad on, on the day, never mind a month away, but though Sternrubin was worth a go at those prices, and may add Winter Escape soon.

    All black des places a fair shout.
    Shocking form this season. But has a touch of wicklow brave about it.

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    Ben_Bernanke
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    Hargam at 40/1 has to be the bet of the festival as long as the grounds suitable, this is a proper JP plot job!

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    Certainly has a chance Ben, coming down the weights nicely.

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    and Co 25’s
    Allblak Des Places 33’s

    …..and that’s without the dozen horses who get an entry and you realise you had completely overlooked. Not a race to go mad on, on the day, never mind a month away, but though Sternrubin was worth a go at those prices, and may add Winter Escape soon.

    All black des places a fair shout.
    Shocking form this season. But has a touch of wicklow brave about it.

    My thoughts entirely Rocky :good:

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    Certainly has a chance Ben, coming down the weights nicely.

    Yeah not sure what his rating will be after his recent run but can imagine him getting dropped 2-3lbs (he ran off 146 on Saturday). He was rated 157 when appearing in last years Champion Hurdle so will be, in my eyes, around 15lbs well in, add to that he’s a horse with genuine class, a top trainer, an owner who loves a handicap winner and most likely a top jockey too, 40/1 is ridiculous and he won’t be that price if he lines up. I reckon he’ll go off 12/1 or shorter should it not be soft.

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    Certainly has a chance Ben, coming down the weights nicely.

    Yeah not sure what his rating will be after his recent run but can imagine him getting dropped 2-3lbs (he ran off 146 on Saturday). He was rated 157 when appearing in last years Champion Hurdle so will be, in my eyes, around 15lbs well in, add to that he’s a horse with genuine class, a top trainer, an owner who loves a handicap winner and most likely a top jockey too, 40/1 is ridiculous and he won’t be that price if he lines up. I reckon he’ll go off 12/1 or shorter should it not be soft.

    Down to 140…

    33/1 NRNB seems pretty fair to me. Whats the chances of him going the Coral Cup route instead though?

    I should of cashed out.

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    The Skeltons won this last year with the well supported Superb Story who’d been 2nd in the Greatwood. Looks like their Greatwood winner, North Hill Harvey is being lined up for another gamble here. He was 9th in The Supreme then 4th to Buv D’Air at Aintree. I’ve taken the 12s NRNB. Suspect he’ll be half that on the day.

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

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    Certainly has a chance Ben, coming down the weights nicely.

    Yeah not sure what his rating will be after his recent run but can imagine him getting dropped 2-3lbs (he ran off 146 on Saturday). He was rated 157 when appearing in last years Champion Hurdle so will be, in my eyes, around 15lbs well in, add to that he’s a horse with genuine class, a top trainer, an owner who loves a handicap winner and most likely a top jockey too, 40/1 is ridiculous and he won’t be that price if he lines up. I reckon he’ll go off 12/1 or shorter should it not be soft.

    Down to 140…

    33/1 NRNB seems pretty fair to me. Whats the chances of him going the Coral Cup route instead though?

    Wow 140 is a crazy rating, can see why he’s dropped that low but in my mind he’s not lost any of his ability, Henderson playing the game and due to him not being Irish he gets a bit more leniency from the Handicapper.
    Wouldn’t be worried of him going the Coral Cup route, to me he’s always been a 2m horse as he is all about speed. Of course Nicky may have other ideas but like you said the 33/1 NRNB may be worth taking if there’s any doubts.

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    The Skeltons won this last year with the well supported Superb Story who’d been 2nd in the Greatwood. Looks like their Greatwood winner, North Hill Harvey is being lined up for another gamble here. He was 9th in The Supreme then 4th to Buv D’Air at Aintree. I’ve taken the 12s NRNB. Suspect he’ll be half that on the day.

    Very good shout, strong form and being given a nice rest before Cheltenham.

    Another of the Skelton’s I’m interested in, though not for this race, is Long House Hall – I backed him last year in the Coral Cup when he was a strong staying on 2nd to Diamond King, he’s rated only 3lbs higher now than he was then, though his last 2 runs were over the larger obstacles (and he won the latter) so he could go either way, though he hasn’t been since that latter run in July so not sure if he’s injured…

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    matthewh18
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    Would any of you guys be keen on Peace & Co. Henderson said in his interview with RUK that he’s had a wind op and is a different horse and could go to the imperial cup and then here? Is that not too close together for a horse that has been off the track for a while??

    16/1 NRNB

    (my racing knowledge is still minimal so excuse me if this is way off! :good:

    Amateur Race enthusiast, take my views at your peril
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    Would any of you guys be keen on Peace & Co. Henderson said in his interview with RUK that he’s had a wind op and is a different horse and could go to the imperial cup and then here? Is that not too close together for a horse that has been off the track for a while??

    16/1 NRNB

    (my racing knowledge is still minimal so excuse me if this is way off! :good:

    Never know what improvement they might find after wind ops etc, even if they were too close together and they swerved cheltenham then youd be covered anyway, if he ran well the 16/1 will vanish pretty quickly, no harm done putting a few £ e/w,it has a chance, will obviously have to improve….

    If henderson sais its an improved horse you have to take that on board, hes more creditable than others

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