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Ah I see, I saw this bit quoted elsewhere:
“Novice Flat race is a Flat race for horses which have not won more than two flat races and have not won a flat race which is classified as Class 1 or more than one flat race which is classified as Class 2”but they had omitted adding the clause you cite.
So Daddy Long Legs and Quinta di Lago are OK but not the others. Winston Junior- 2nd in the Ulster Derby and joint fav for the Fred Winter- would also be OK I think. Faye Bramley trains in Lambourn so Winston and the Hill could share a horsebox to Southwell and stop for a Maccy D’s together on the way home, winner buys.
Looking at the schedules, Constitution Hill’s race is due off at 5.00pm but ITV’s coverage doesn’t begin till 5.15pm. They show every other race on the card live
Will this really happen or will moves be afoot to change things around?No, it’s been moved to 7:30 pm as per the schedule on the Racing Admin site.
It’s not yet 9am and there are already 28 entries for this race, with 3 hours still to go to the deadline. Just about every NH yard in the country seems to want to join in the fun, with Nicholls, Skelton, Jonjo, Bailey and Moore all represented. The stalls limit is 14 – cue the Weatherbys staff finding a way to ensure CH isn’t eliminated!
Willie Mullins has entered Daddy Long Legs and Andrew Balding has entered a 4yo 82 rated maiden called Jupiter Ammon, so there might be some competition for the services of Oisin.
“The stalls limit is 14 – cue the Weatherbys staff finding a way to ensure CH isn’t eliminated!
Andrew Balding has entered a 4yo 82 rated maiden called Jupiter Ammon, so there might be some competition for the services of Oisin.”
This farce keeps on getting better and better.
This will almost certainly be over subscribed horses will then have to be balloted.
The more I know the less I understand.
26 entries as of 9am this morning according to the Racing Post (doesnt close until noon today). There could be two divs maybe but it splits the pot up and I’m going out on a limb here to say the prize money is the reason CH is going to Southwell and not some other similar AW race worth 5K. Theres no world where CH gets ballotted out is there lol. Can see a few connections kicking off about this and justifiably so imo.
If Constitution Hill had run in the Kingwell today what price would he have been, providing all the other declared runners ran? About 1/3? He will be nothing like that price next Friday. Today could have been a perfect prep for the Champion, could be wrong but that’s why I can’t see him running in it now, whatever happens next Friday.
I dont even know what a good outcome would be for CH if he runs at Southwell. How on earth do you assess the merits of the run and then apply that to a completely different race at the festival?
If I understand the rules correctly, the CH race can’t be divided, because it’s a Class 2 contest. And the usual ‘this race may be divided’ condition isn’t included in the race conditions.
But since the race has already been upgraded and moved from another meeting, the ‘rules’ probably don’t apply. I expect there’s a ‘Henderson’ provision buried in a sub clause somewhere that can be used.
If it did divide, someone would have to come up with the £40k for the extra race – divided races don’t split the prize money these days.
Now 33 entries, including an Amo Racing addition, called Square Necker. This one ran once for Ralph Beckett last year, won a Dundalk 12F maiden for Robson Aguilar in December and is now with Kevin PdF.
“I expect there’s a ‘Henderson’ provision buried in a sub clause somewhere that can be used.”
I expect so too but why should this one particular trainers have his whims indulged by the authorities? He gets racecourse gallops whenever he wants them and now it would appear he is having a race framed for one of his horses.
And then some people wonder why some of us find Henderson so irksome.
I’ve found the rule about divided races:
Subject to the provisions of paragraph 5, the following types of Race are permitted to divide:
Weight-for-Age Races in which the Total Prize Fund is;
£15,000 or less
The only races on that Southwell card that have the provision for being divided in the race conditions, are the three class 5 handicaps, coincidentally each worth £15,000.
However, paragraph 5 does contain a get-out clause:
The BHA shall:
after Closing, determine an order of precedence for the division of Races permitted to divide
From racing post
Could Constitution Hill be balloted out of his own race?
That’s the question a lot of people are asking this morning as the entry list for Friday’s 1m4f novice continues to swell.
The answer is not exactly set in stone, but there is reason for optimism that the evening’s star performer will be ensured a place in the line up.
The elimination process, as per the BHA rules, protects certain horses in order of priority, with first preference going to horses who have completed no more than two Flat races and been placed in the first four at least one of those starts.
While Constitution Hill doesn’t fall in that bracket, he will be eligible for the next protection class as a horse who has not run in a Flat race before.
He will have priority over every other horse with at least one Flat race to their name (barring those mentioned above).
That should give him a solid chance of securing his spot.
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That’s confusing surely a horse that has run once on the flat also fall into the category of completing no more that two flat races or is that just me?
The more I know the less I understand.
The key is ‘been placed in the first four’, so a single run down the field doesn’t get you into that first priority group.
Final entry is 32, and confirmation from the Racing Admin site that only the three class 5 races are open to being divided, with the 7F handicap as first choice for that as it has the most entries (33).
Incidentally if I’m reading that correct and Willie wants a run Daddy Long Legs is higher up the order than CH because hes had 2 flat runs and a top 4 finish.
Will this really happen or will moves be afoot to change things around?
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