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  • #44153
    Stormont
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    I’d agree with you steve, I think War Of Attrition has been written off by most already just because he hasn’t performed that well on ground that he obviously dislikes. He will probably be my bet in the race (if the ground is good).

    SirHarry, although the fences at Cheltenham may be a LITTLE more forgiving at Cheltenham these days, they will be much stiffer than those at Newbury and Kempton, either of those mistakes at Cheltenham would have seen him on the deck IMO. I’ve always thought Wincanton had some of the stiffest fences in the country with Cheltenham not far behind….. but there are quite a few jumps tracks that i haven’t been to.

    It must be concentration that effects Kauto, i can’t see any other reason for it. Both time he had the race in the bag and just seemed to forget what his job was for a split second. At Newbury it looked to me as if he tried to put another stride in MID AIR. Nicholls and Walsh have said he is always perfect at home, so i find it hard to believe how they will iron out these problems. If he doesn’t make the mistakes at home, how can they teach him not to?

    Maybe Ruby will wait longer and not hit the front until they are jumping the last.

    Maybe this is a stupid idea and i very much doubt it would be considered but if it is a concentration problem, would ear plugs help?

    With his stamina looking like it will see him home, but iwe still can’t be 100% sure he will stay this longer trip around Cheltenham.

    It’s going to be the normal Beef Or Salmon question for me, and i would have thought for many on here. I didn’t back him last year but in years previous i have. If he goes and wins this year everyone will be kicking themselves…….. all it needs is the penny to finally drop in England and he will go very close, if not winning. What is it with him and England though?????? It is a complete mystery.

    (Edited by Stormont at 12:22 pm on Feb. 15, 2007)

    #44154
    johnjdonoghue
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    Quote: from SirHarryLewis on 10:41 am on Feb. 15, 2007[br]You know you can have 5-2 on Kauto falling, unseating or being brought down.  I think he looks a tremendous jumper most of the time so Im not sure if itss lack of concentration or being made do things under pressure that causes him to make those type of mistakes.

    From what Nicholls and Ted Walsh said recently, the cheltenham fences are alot more fogiving these days in terms of how solid they are.

    So a question.  What tracks have stiff fences?  Newbury…Sandown??

    I think that a bet which involves the potential safety of a horse is a disgrace. The firm who are quoting that have no shame.

    JohnJ.

    #44155
    SirHarryLewis
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    but isnt falling just part of the game really ???  Obviously nobody wants the horse to be hurt.

    SHL

    #44156
    johnjdonoghue
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    It is of course, do you know if you can bet on a Grand Prix driver crashing?

    JohnJ.

    #44157
    Stormont
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    I think there is a very fine line between what is acceptable on those lines.

    At first i had no problem with it, but thinking about it i suppose it could be seen as being pretty out of order.

    #44158
    Aragorn
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    Backig them both would be buying money though would it not?

    #44159
    davidbrady
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    Quote: from johnjdonoghue on 12:29 pm on Feb. 15, 2007[br]It is of course, do you know if you can bet on a Grand Prix driver crashing?

    JohnJ.<br>

    Not necessarily but I’m fairly sure you can bet on a driver failing to finish, which is what the KS bet should have been worded as.

    #44160
    Stormont
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    Quote: from davidbrady on 12:56 pm on Feb. 15, 2007[br]

    Quote: from johnjdonoghue on 12:29 pm on Feb. 15, 2007[br]It is of course, do you know if you can bet on a Grand Prix driver crashing?

    JohnJ.<br>

    Not necessarily but I’m fairly sure you can bet on a driver failing to finish, which is what the KS bet should have been worded as.

    Very true

    #44161
    stevedvg
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    I’d agree with you steve, I think War Of Attrition has been written off by most already just because he hasn’t performed that well on ground that he obviously dislikes

    It’s worth remembering that he was also written off last year because of his poor results.

    If he goes and wins this year everyone will be kicking themselves……..

    I think a lot of people will be cheering.

    10 G1’s and he’s still never had the credit he deserves, just because he’s never run well in one particular race in the calendar. <br> <br>Steve

    #44162
    davidjohnson
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    Considering War of Attrition remains a general 4/1 to 9/2, who exactly are the people that are writing him off. It certainly isn’t reflected in his ante-post price.

    #44165
    stevedvg
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    Considering War of Attrition remains a general 4/1 to 9/2, who exactly are the people that are writing him off. It certainly isn’t reflected in his ante-post price.

    Maybe "writing off" is the wrong phrase, but he seems to be the forgotten horse on this side of the Irish sea.

    Steve

    #44166
    Danny
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    Hedgehunter and possibly In Compliance now out the gold cup, for me only possible challengers to Kauto Star now are Exotic Dancer, War of Attrition and maybe Lami thats if Kauto jumps round<br>  

    #44168
    davidbrady
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    What are the plans regarding Halcon Genelardais

    #44169
    davidjohnson
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    As I understand it david, he runs and will likely wear blinkers, and sneak into a place at 40/1.

    #44170
    davidbrady
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    40/1 for you maybe. 28s for the plebs that waited for a decision like me!

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