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  • #1511268
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    I can’t remember if it changed last year Mike.

    I’ve only got one Antepost with PP at the moment with Great White Shark, so can only offer to let you know once NRNB kicks in, which I suspect will be too late for you.

    #1511449
    darren83
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    How I forget to add Chantry house at 25/1 for Marsh chase did bet when did others in this thread after Cheltenham finish happy with today.

    #1511452
    darren83
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    Tower Bridge 33/1 in Pertemps
    YOUMADOUR 25s in Triumph hurdle missed 50s with hills before race

    #1511676
    PigsInBlankets
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    Arkle
    Fusil Raffles 45/1

    Champion Hurdle
    Abacadaras 10/1
    Elixir D’Ainay 137/1

    Champion Chase
    Fakir D’Oudairies 50/1

    Marsh Novices
    Protektorat 28/1

    Ryanair
    Fakir D’Oudairies 20/1
    Riders Onthe Storm 40/1
    Master Tommytucker 75/1

    Gold Cup
    Delta Work 40/1

    #1511697
    FinalFurlong91
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    Important day for me

    With three of my ante post bets running

    Hoping for impressive wins from minella indo, farouk d’alene and appreciate it

    Appreciate it looks very short for a horse that definitely wants further

    Also very interested in fire attack, who has handicap plot job written all over him

    #1513768
    PigsInBlankets
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    Update on mine, some of the more promising looking ones were more down to a quick reaction after an impressive win (Zanahiyr, the Double & Treble, Next Destination) rather than any great foresight, but nevertheless happy with the position on a few of those mentioned.

    As expected there are a couple that have gone the other way and look a bit daft in hindsight, as you come to expect with any Antepost book I guess. Subsequent races haven’t enhanced the position on these and will be happy to even get a run from Fusil Raffles, Summerville Boy and a couple of the others.

    Multiples
    Double – Shishkin (Arkle) & Envoi Allen (Marsh) 15/2
    Treble – Epatante (CH), Shishkin (Arkle) & Envoi Allen (Marsh) 23/1
    Trixie – Felix Desjy (Arkle), Protektorat (Marsh) & The Big Breakaway 1444/1

    Any Race
    Next Destination 20/1

    Arkle
    Fusil Raffles 45/1
    Blackbow 40/1

    Champion Hurdle
    Abacadaras 10/1
    Elixir D’Ainay 137/1

    Champion Chase
    Fakir D’Oudairies 50/1

    Marsh Novices
    Protektorat 28/1

    Ryanair
    Fakir D’Oudairies 20/1
    Riders Onthe Storm 40/1
    Master Tommytucker 75/1
    Cyrname 26/1

    Stayers
    Summerville Boy 20/1

    Triumph
    Zanahiyr 12/1

    Gold Cup
    Delta Work 40/1

    #1514132
    Autumnal
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    Champion Hurdle – Beacon Edge 50/1 ew
    National Hunt Chase – Aione 33/1
    National Hunt Chase – Five O’Clock 33/1
    National Hunt Chase – Ontheropes 33/1
    RSA Chase – Aione 50/1
    RSA Chase – Easywork 25/1
    Champion Chase – Notebook 33/1 ew
    Champion Chase – Put The Kettle On 8/1
    Marsh Novice Chase – Easywork 25/1
    County Hurdle – Capodanno 25/1
    Gold Cup – Allaho 25/1

    To win any race:
    Fury Road 14/1
    Ferny Hollow 8/1
    Wide Receiver 20/1

    #1514137
    Jasolong
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    Bets so far …

    Supreme novices –
    Flinteur sacre 25/1 – disappointing debut but done plenty wrong that day so I’m hoping he can learn a bit with each race but not overly confident now lol

    Arkle –
    Shishkin 4/1 and 7/2 and 3/1 –
    Very happy of course and looking forwards to seeing him against better opposition to confirm his superstar status

    Champion hurdle –
    Epatante – 9/2,4/1,3/1
    Again very happy she’s bulletproof if she turns up ready to go in my opinion

    Champion chase –
    Chacun Pour Soi – 6/1
    Global citizen – 120/1
    Marie banrigh – 140/1 – retired
    Not holding any hope with global any more lol chacun pour soi I’m happy with the odds as a lot of the risk is him actually turning up 100% fit so I wouldn’t be betting him at current odds of 11/4

    Ballymore –
    Bravemansgame- 20/1
    Could be anything still at this stage but couldn’t have been more impressive the other day and the fact they keep referring him as the denman route makes me think Nichols thinks a lot of him.

    Mares novice hurdle
    The glancing queen – 16/1
    Superb bumper form and in a race where majority of the opposition will be no hopers, she should be there abouts and clearly has a lot of ability. Ran a cracker on debut over hurdlers

    Stayers hurdle
    Thyme hill – 14/1,12/1
    Paisley park – 8/1,7/1
    Been backing thyme hill ever since I found out they were staying hurdling as he was unlucky in the Albert Bartlett and Hobbs horses were out of form too so I think he’s a great horse and was superb all season and obviously blew me away on debut this season beating all the English leading hopes. Paisley park obviously has all the ability in the world and I feel could bounce back anytime so is a cover bet.

    Gold cup
    Santini – 10/1,8/1
    Champ – 14/1,12/1
    I know Santini gets a lot of stick but the horse nearly won this last season and the slow pace wouldn’t have suited him. And Henderson has said countless times that he takes an age to get fit so I don’t want bothered by his debut this season at all, he was just as bad if not worse on debut last season and ended up a neck 2nd in the gold cup. He will improve every run to is season and peak at the festival and if it’s a slog he’s the likely winner in my eyes and I’d say the gold cup is a slog quite often. Champ clearly has all the ability and even with jumping bad he still won the RSA. I know he will need to improve his jumping to win this but I think there’s every chance he could and if that’s the case he’s going to be in with a big chance.

    #1516213
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    So far only had 1 bet which is Concertista to win any race at 3/1 hills. Feel they may go for Champion Hurdle than Mares Hurdle ( which is in my opinion easier). Also a similar bet for Waiting Patiently now Gold Cup been ruled out.

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    #1516589
    PigsInBlankets
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    Looks like Paddies are NRNB on all Cheltenham races now. I’ve taken their Price Boosted 25/1 Appreciate It/Shishkin/Epatante treble.

    #1516691
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    Multiples
    Double – Shishkin (Arkle) & Envoi Allen (Marsh) 15/2
    Treble – Epatante (CH), Shishkin (Arkle) & Envoi Allen (Marsh) 23/1
    Trixie – Felix Desjy (Arkle), Protektorat (Marsh) & The Big Breakaway (RSA) 1444/1
    Treble – Appreciate It (Supreme), Epatante (CH), Shishkin (Arkle) – 25/1 NRNB

    Any Race
    Next Destination 20/1

    Arkle
    Fusil Raffles 45/1
    Blackbow 40/1

    Champion Hurdle
    Abacadaras 16/1 (Cashed Out at 10/1)
    Elixir D’Ainay 137/1

    National Hunt Chase
    Latest Exhibition 6/1 NRNB
    Court Maid 14/1 NRNB

    RSA
    Pencilfulloflead 22/1

    Champion Chase
    Fakir D’Oudairies 50/1
    Politologue 10/1

    Marsh Novices
    Protektorat 28/1
    Shan Blue 16/1

    Ryanair
    Fakir D’Oudairies 20/1
    Riders Onthe Storm 40/1
    Master Tommytucker 75/1
    Cyrname 26/1

    Stayers
    Summerville Boy 20/1

    Triumph
    Zanahiyr 12/1

    Albert Bartlett
    Oscar Elite 64/1

    Gold Cup
    Delta Work 40/1
    Melon 70/1
    A Plus Tard 12/1

    #1516714
    rocky91
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    Champion hurdle

    Abacadabras @ 8/1(hills)

    Abacadabras was very impressive on his 2nd start over hurdles in the For Auction Novice hurdle beating latest exhibition with the minimum of fuss and creating a lasting impression. At Christmas time he backed that up with a close 2nd to the ballymore winner Envoi Allen and had the eventual champion hurdle 3rd darvers star 2.5L behind him in 3rd. On what turned out to be the final run of his season he travelled very well and looked all over the winner of the supreme until shiskin just managed to get up by a head. There was a long way back to the 3rd chantry house. It has been a little while since we have had a quality out and out 2 miler come out of the supreme of which Abacadabras to my eye seems to be.

    Although epatante is clearly very good, I personally don’t think there was another star in the race itself and I would be of the opinion that Abacadabras can come up to open company and at the very least give her something to worry about.

    also in the CHAMPION HURDLE

    I advised SAINT ROI to MEMBERS at 20/1 WITH CASHOUT. Prior to his comeback run. A facile winner of the county hurdle. He ran very well on his seasonal return. It was a good display of jumping, and he won with absolutely ease. I expect him to progress further, He is currently priced up at odds of 10/1 which i believe is fair. The 2 which i have currently put up for the CH may well clash at down royal in the WKD hurdle. Which is likely to be a very informative contest, and a race which is certainly worth noting going forward.

    Queen Mother Champion Chase

    I Have already advised chacun pour soi to members at 9/2. I do not personally believe that he is a liability to be injured as the general consensus seems to be, he was unfortunate to get a stone bruise at the wrong time last year, that could have happened to anybody, his previous lay off was mainly due to being given time to acclimatise to his new yard after being purchased from France. on his racetrack form, his beating of min was a quality performance at the dublin racing festival, min subsequently won the ryanir chase and has come out this season and won the john durkan. chacun already had the race in the bag going over the last, if i wanted to be picky, chacun did not power away at he line, However i do believe they had left more to work on. His seasonal debut was satisfactory, and its only a few days until he has to back it up in a stronger race.

    I have now just advised to also back altior at 7/1 with bet365. he has obviously won this race twice previously, the first time beating min, and the 2nd beating last years winner politologue, politologue was held up on this occasion and altior was infront soon enough, he was scrubed along and found more in the closing stages, which is his customary fashion. I do believe that now politologue has his front running style, this will suit altior and give him a longer lead, with something to aim at for when he does pick up in the closing stages on the run in, i believe that chacun will be bang there and looking to take the lead at the last, altor will be looking to do the same, however may take a little longer to pick up,with the hill and a long run in to his aid.

    altior, chacun. and politologue for me are the 3 main players. I personally do not see a winning challenge coming from put the kettle on or elsewhere, she is in my horses to avoid article, if that is of interest to you.

    Stayers Hurdle

    we have had some cracking races already this season, with paisley park, roksana and thyme hill all winning useful races, last time out they all took each other on in the long walk, roksana ran very credibly in 3rd and subsequently does look just held here, paisley park was scrubbed along in his customary style, and used all of the extended trip here, to get up. it was a brilliant performance by paisley park who is an admirable horse, however, the one i would be taking out of the race is thyme hill, firstly he has the tactical pace, also being very much towards the front of the pace, to me looks to be a great benefit in what surely will be a big field in the stayers, he gives you the option of choosing when you want to take up the lead and go for home, where as paisley park could very much so have traffic issues as well as a slightly shorter trip to contend with, plus the fact that he bombed in a far weaker renewal last year.

    I must admit that i am annoyed with myself for not advising thyme hill before his seasonal debut, however i felt it was a steep enough task first time up, and something that he may improve from, i did not expect such a big reduction in odds, which subsequently he has backed up, and shown to be more than fair. He is certainly no 1 in my book at this stage.

    we will shortly have sire du berlais v fury road. fury road showed a huge upturn in form at the festival itself last year, showing that what he does at christmas, there is sure to be improvement upon, he actually has a fair mark, so you also have to take that into consideration also, with handicaps a possibility. sire du berlais imo put in the performance of the festival last season when winning the pertemps final. for my money he would have won last years stayers hurdle, this year there are some young pretenders, with smart form, so i believe the task will not be as easy as last year. that discounts him at the prices for me, however that is price related and it certainly is not discrediting his chances.

    we could see some wild cards, by the time the cleeve hurdle comes around, imo this race does not look too attractive to switch back from fences, however ones with the potential to do so, start with and are not limited to latest exhibition and champ.

    in summary, thyme hill looks the one, id be fairly confident, that is who we will be backing for the purpose of this thread, however i will be holding fire for now, and will see what comes out of the woodwork.

    Gold Cup

    you have to start with al boum photo, i put him up for the rsa at 3 figure prices before he fell late on, most people will know that i was adamant that he was not beaten at the time. which led me to advise him at 33/1 for the following years gold cup, and again for this years. he won both, and i see no reason why he cant win a 3rd,

    I am not sold on minella indo at all yet, he has beaten very little imo, and gets his first real test at christmas, so lets reserve judgement until then .

    presenting percy went very well last time, now in the hands of gordon elliot, there will be no excuses given, i am not sure that he will ever beat al boum photo again, but this is probably his last chance to do so. he will have his followers, and this is probably the first time that i give him some sort of chance get involved at all. so lets see what gordon can do.

    I came away from the gold cup thinking that lost in translation was the only challenger that could come back, improve and potentially put it up to the champion, however i was very disappointed last time, and in all honesty, even more so that they have decided to go for the king george again, lets hope he proves me wrong on that score, i just cant help thinking he wanted a confidence booster rather than a war of attrition.

    Santini, i just cant see him having the tactical pace to win. imo he will always be too little, too late.

    in conclusion, there is more evidence to be seen on the race track shortly, however atm its al boum photo for the 3 timer that has my deepest consideration, i am not a fan of last years novices as of yet, and subsequently you will find champ sitting in my horses to avoid article, if anyone would like to read that. i will be updating this before al boum makes his seasonal debut

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    Arkle – Blackbow 33-1 ew
    Ultima – Cloth Cap 16-1 non runner no bet
    Ultima – Aye Right 16-1 nrnb
    Champion Hurdle – Sharjah 25-1 ew
    Champion Hurdle – Silver Streak 11-1
    Mares Hurdle – Benie Des Dieux 8-1
    National Hunt Chase – Dickie Diver 33-1
    Rsa – Next Destination 20-1
    Champion Chase – Nube Negra 16-1 ew
    Marsh Novices – Chantry House 16-1 ew nrnb
    Pertemps – Tobefair 50-1 ew
    Pertemps – Imperial Alcazar 14-1
    Ryanair – Min 6-1
    Ryanair – Real Steel 20-1
    Ryanair – Riders On The Storm 25-1
    Stayers Hurdle – Thyme Hill 11-2
    Stayers Hurdle – Imperial Alcazar 33-1
    Triumph – Adagio 10-1
    County Hurdle – Capodanno 25-1
    County Hurdle – Christopher Wood 100-1 ew
    Gold Cup – A Plus Tard 66-1 ew
    Gold Cup – Waiting Patiently 40-1 ew
    Martin Pipe – Fire Attack 16-1 nrnb
    Martin Pipe – Ngolo 16-1 nrnb

    #1521653
    All Jeff
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    I’ve had a quiet winter with the Cheltenham bets. I only had five until recently, and the only two left are Honeysuckle and Kilfilum Cross

    I’m going to start properly after DRF

    Champion Hurdle, Honeysuckle 16-1
    Coral Cup, Damalisque 14-1
    Champion Chase, Fakir D’oudairies 28-1 ew
    Ryanair, Imperial Aura 7-1
    Ryanair, Fakir D’Oudairies 12-1
    Kim Muir, Kilfilum Cross 33-1
    Mares Chase, Elimay 4-1

    #1521765
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    Can we just say Willie Mullins wins :good:

    He’s on a whole new level this season above even things he’s achieved before. Give him everything bar the Arkle

    #1521781
    FinalFurlong91
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    “Champion Hurdle, Honeysuckle 16-1”

    That looks a cracking bet now well done

    I tried to get skybet to price up Honeysuckle to win today by 2+ lengths and just to win the champion hurdle but they never bothered

    #1521949
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    Thank you FF91, she was my only bet in the autumn, I just thought that it was too big a price. If I’m being honest, I thought it was that good a price, that the the inside word was that she wouldn’t be going for The Champion Hurdle.

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