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  • #1566979
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Not a race that I bother with too much, but occasionally have an Antepost.

    Last years winner Put The Kettle On looks ok at 14’s. I think Sundays Shloer Chase will be a different proposition to last year, however win or lose, and providing there’s no setbacks through the year, she’s unlikely to be anywhere near this price. On the verge of betting her.

    The one I have bet is Envoi Allen at 16’s. Loads can go wrong between now and then, but outside chance that owners will re-route him down this road, with Allaho and A Plus Tard for the other races. Very risky, as I’m aware that they do actually run two in the one race, and although he’s not screaming out to go down in trip, I think he’d handle it.

    As I said, more than risky, but I thought I’d throw a few pounds his way

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    #1566999
    Mike007
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    I got 2 in this atm…

    Shishkin 8-1 Arkle/QMCC. Chacun Pour Soi 17-2 but that’s as backup more than anything. They are due to meet in the Tingle Creek which should tell me a bit more.

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    greenasgrass
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    Rouge Vif at 66s ew is my first bet here. Probably ground dependent but has good course form.

    #1567788
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Shishkin was my jackpot horse last year and again this year.
    Betway messed up a bit before last years Arkle and didn’t alter the 8/1 on the double for this year when the Mullins horse was pulled they kept the 8/1 so I hammered it
    Nube Negra is an interesting one. Think he could be a little underrated
    As long as there is pace everything points to Shishkin. A slower run race and he may be in trouble

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    #1567791
    Mike007
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    Nuba Negra is an admirable horse and the way Skelton’s horses have been running and Nubra’s decent record fresh he would’ve been A1 in the Schloer imo. However, I reckon that an A1 Shishkin, and perhaps Energumene and CPS as well, Politologue wouldn’t have been as close to them at the finish, and of course PTKO didn’t run too well.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Shiskin is technically still just a hype horse at this stage

    Hes not beaten anything really

    And hea going to be coming up against chacun, energumene and nube negra

    He is the worst priced ante post horse in the Cheltenham markets at 6/4

    Do I think hes the likeliest winner, yes

    But he’s a terrible price

    #1567827
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    Mike, you got 8/1 for Shiskin for the QMCC ?

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    He was 8’s for the Arkle and QMCC double.
    I’ve got pieces at 33’s, 12’s
    Even had one bet at 100/1 Arkle plus QMCC but that included Envoi Allen needing to win his Festival race last year… :-(

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    #1567839
    Mike007
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    Yes i have 8s the Arkle and QMCC double BigG.

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    Ah, with you now Mike, very best of luck with your bet :good:

    #1567850
    ham
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    Been arguing this point for a while FF, im partially biased as im a big fan of CPS, but in theory, if CPS replicates his best form round cheltenham, which i believe he will nto, then Shishkin has to run to 177 in open company,

    He hasnt ran in open company yet atall is the issue with the price….

    He is absolutely a 170+ horse on evidence but the difference between 170 & 177 is astronomical at this upper level, energumene still could be every bit as good…

    In no world should he be 6/4 this far out with the highest rated horse in training behind him, who ran to 177 on his last outing, with the potential in behind him again in energumene..

    Id lay shishkin at 6/4 this far out, on the day if thats his price then fair enough, as hed have come through the trials by that point, i dont think id complain too much

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    Bear in mind ham that CPS is 9 coming up 10 so he may not run to the numbers you mention this time around.

    #1567905
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Hendersons record in this race over the last 10 years is pretty good. Both Altior and Sprinter taking in the Supreme and Arkle previously too on the way. Shishkin looks tailor made for this race as they usually go Championship pace.

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    I dont think anyone is saying he doesnt have a great chance of winning

    But 6/4 this far out, not a hope in hell is that a good price

    Wouldnt even put that price in Multis its so bad

    #1567992
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I’m struggling with this argument , Shiskin is a hype horse despite winning a Arkle yet we are using CPS as a yardstick despite him being beaten in a Champion , Shiskin has had 1 race in his life , the rest he,s won with ease , it’s unlikely we,be seen the best of him yet , CPS has likely run his best race , personally I didn’t think he got up the hill and I’d be happy to take him on there , some horses just don’t perform there , Beef and Salmon was a superstar in Ireland , he hated Cheltenham

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    #1567998
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    Shishkin 8-1 Arkle/QMCC.

    Mike, how come on the 12th March last year, he wasn’t included in your Portfolio?

    Not saying you didn’t do it, but don’t understand why you put it up now, and not then?

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    Mike007
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    Can’t remember if i mentioned it somewhere before or not Jack, but its next year where an outcome hopefully will be reached in any case.

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